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| Yeah, really poor form for Green to be told about the debts, only AFTER he had bought the club.
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| Quote ="dboy"Yeah, really poor form for Green to be told about the debts, only AFTER he had bought the club.'"
I don't know how stupid you actually are, though the condition is clearly deep, but tbf Green did not buy any debts. That was kinda the point of buying from an administrator. Ask your dad. He might also explain to you what I was talking about, as you clearly have no fscking idea, though good luck to him with that, ya can't educate wood.
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"Perhaps you should have followed the policy review document, and the rebel clubs walk out. Plus the Salford chairman and criticism of many decisions, Coupled with the worse attendance figures ever? What is your assessment, I remain to be convinced that the head of any organisation isn't responsible as it is understood in all businesses the "Buck Stops here"'"
It wouldn’t be a policy if it hadn’t been discussed & agreed by the majority, as much as I dislike the idea. We all know Koukash isn’t happy because he can’t buy his team instant success, but I asked you to name the[i number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy[/i
Anyway some of the SL clubs walked out in protest over plans to allocate more funds to Championship clubs, rather than over the structure, as I remember it. Another anyway, it was Barwick who ran the meeting to agree the structures with the clubs, it was the RL that ratified it. Another another anyway, I thought it was all Hetherington's plan for world domination.
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| Quote ="tigertot"It wouldn’t be a policy if it hadn’t been discussed & agreed by the majority, as much as I dislike the idea. We all know Koukash isn’t happy because he can’t buy his team instant success, but I asked you to name the[i number of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy[/i
Anyway some of the SL clubs walked out in protest over plans to allocate more funds to Championship clubs, rather than over the structure, as I remember it. Another anyway, it was Barwick who ran the meeting to agree the structures with the clubs, it was the RL that ratified it. Another another anyway, I thought it was all Hetherington's plan for world domination.'"
There were a number of the club chairmen who were totally at odds to the proposals, I was told by a club chairman, who I will not name as it is not my place to do so. What I do know is it wasn't anything to do with allocation of funds as this wasn't even decided at that stage.
However I don't pretend to know it chapter and verse..who could?
I do not know the number and if I did, I would leave it with them to come out and say it, it is not up to me!
I only know what I've read and pieced together over the 2 years of the debacle at the Bulls, true I have spoken to chairmen and journalists who have expressed their dislike at the way it's going in RL. Such is the cons in the "pros and cons" situation that this is the conclusion I have come to, as have many fans, otherwise the attendance figures for SL and the current championship would be less than dire?
My case rests, people will believe what they want to, and between that is the truth of the situation, I sincerely wish I felt I was wrong???
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| Quote ="tigertot"To suggest that one person is responsible for coming up with the idea & managing to brainwash all chairmen to accept it is ridiculous. Who are all the [inumber of chairmen asking questions about the suitability of the hierachy who are trusted with the games creditability at many levels[/i?'"
Lard Butt of Halifax got the job by default - he waited for a better man to leave then took control.
The only way to ensure you look good now is to hire people less able than yourself - thats what he has done.
So you are correct - there is more than one person making a right mess of the game.
There is little chance you will get an answer to the number of chairmen as most of us are just fans and can only guess.
I work in an organisation where the management are clueless, don't communicate and don't listen. It's crap.
The club chairmen are in a similar position - so they may well be hacked off too.
If they could stop falling out between themselves and pull in the same direction - we could see some changes - but won't be holding my breath on that one.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I don't know how stupid you actually are, though the condition is clearly deep, but tbf Green did not buy any debts. That was kinda the point of buying from an administrator. Ask your dad. He might also explain to you what I was talking about, as you clearly have no fscking idea, though good luck to him with that, ya can't educate wood.'"
What a distasteful person you are.
Is ok to call people stupid in your world?
I can't ask my dad, as he is dead, though I am coming to terms with that.
Green bought Bulls knowing there was debt.
And it's pork that you can't educate. And aardvarks.
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| FA you are a complete tool. The reason why I don't post on here. You are a nasty vile keyboard warrior. Feel free to dissect my comments. I have been an avid browser on here and lifelong bulls fan but you talk utter dog$hit attacking everyone except the mods who are up your ar$e as much as you are !!!!
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| Quote ="dboy"What a distasteful person you are.
Is ok to call people stupid in your world?
I can't ask my dad, as he is dead, though I am coming to terms with that.
Green bought Bulls knowing there was debt.
And it's pork that you can't educate. And aardvarks.'"
Green bought the business from an administrator, the effect of which is the debt stays with the old company. He could have bought the whole shebang including the debt. He didn't.
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| Quote ="BoroBull"FA you are a complete tool. The reason why I don't post on here. You are a nasty vile keyboard warrior. Feel free to dissect my comments. I have been an avid browser on here and lifelong bulls fan but you talk utter dog$hit attacking everyone except the mods who are up your ar$e as much as you are !!!!'"
Thanks, I'll add it to my CV.
BTW the reason you don't post on here is not what you claim, but because for whatever reason you have been unable to work out how to use the "foe" feature. What you need to do is click on my username and then select the following:
Once you have done this, your reason for not posting will have been erased, and the forum can have the benefit of your thoughts. Something I'm sure we shall all look forward to, having been deprived for far too long. Stuff like your previous contribution to the board, which was as long ago as April 2012, when another poster said something not to your taste. You gave this your consideration and then responded with the memorable, almost Churchillian, riposte:
Quote T0$$ pot'"
Vulgar insults. It's the future.
PS It is ironic that in making your first comment to me, you actually do exactly what it is you accuse me of, as well as breaching about 50% of the AUP. Well done at least for that, and you are consistent.
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| Quote ="BoroBull"FA you are a complete tool. The reason why I don't post on here. You are a nasty vile keyboard warrior. Feel free to dissect my comments. I have been an avid browser on here and lifelong bulls fan but you talk utter dog$hit attacking everyone except the mods who are up your ar$e as much as you are !!!!'"
Give over. We are not up his @rse at all. Why the other day we were out hunting and I remarked that it was a poor show when he passed the hip flask around the group anti-clockwise. He mumbled apologetically as I recall.
Seriously you don't get browny points for reading silently and then erupting like that. You may think some people get preferential treatment but that's simply because you haven't a clue what we do behind the scenes.
=#FF0000Drawing a line under this frightfully unseemly episode, can we now all stop with the narking and being meanies to one another. Smooches. XX
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| Does the AUP not apply to you also?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Give over. We are not up his @rse at all. Why the other day we were out hunting and I remarked that it was a poor show when he passed the hip flask around the group anti-clockwise. He mumbled apologetically as I recall.
Seriously you don't get browny points for reading silently and then erupting like that. You may think some people get preferential treatment but that's simply because you haven't a clue what we do behind the scenes.
=#FF0000Drawing a line under this frightfully unseemly episode, can we now all stop with the narking and being meanies to one another. Smooches. XX'"
So FA breaks the AUP, yet you rebuke the bloke who challenged his bullying???
And then deny you are up his !
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Give over. We are not up his @rse at all. Why the other day we were out hunting and I remarked that it was a poor show when he passed the hip flask around the group anti-clockwise. He mumbled apologetically as I recall.
Seriously you don't get browny points for reading silently and then erupting like that. You may think some people get preferential treatment but that's simply because you haven't a clue what we do behind the scenes.
=#FF0000Drawing a line under this frightfully unseemly episode, can we now all stop with the narking and being meanies to one another. Smooches. XX'"
You've altered my draft. If you do that again, I will withdraw my favours until further notice.
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Er ... no, he doesn't!
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| Calling people stupid is ok?
Bullying posts are ok?
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| Quote ="dboy"Calling people stupid is ok? '"
If they post something very stupid then yes, I'd say so. There's even a smiley for it. Are you like the world's most sensitive soul, that the epithet "stupid" mortally offends you? I think a public forum may be too much for your delicate sensibilities if that were actually true.
Quote ="dboy"Bullying posts are ok?'"
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These will be the first two posts deleted then
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| Well you have got three posts from me now. Hope your pleased with yourself FA, making me waste my time on here instead of watching Jeremy Kyle all day!!! Oh hope MG drops the court case! Well that's me done till 2016, don't be too upset FA.
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| It is sad to see Bulls in this position and the reasons will never be truely known. All teams seem to have been able to loan/sign players this season so how come the bulls didn't? They let Samutt and Scruton go while out of admin. The sole focus has been the 6 points and as an outsider looking in, minimal effort has been made to get a team to get the points back.
Certain fans see this as mostly the fault of external powers but my view (No doubt if everyone wasn't on a warning I would get slaughtered) the main fault lies with the management of the club. Marc Green talks well but surely this year he has been more at fault than Francis Cummins?
Sad for the fans who the club has really let down (including this year). When there was previously promotion and religation Bull fan didn't even worry if it was fair or not. But people need to accept reality, statements about the appeal been for the good of the game and dropping it soon as 6 point back are no good says it all. Has it been confirmed he has dropped this yet?
Good luck for the future stick together as fans and as a club. Stop the I know more than you stuff and calling people idiots because they have and opinion.
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"It is sad to see Bulls in this position and the reasons will never be truely known. All teams seem to have been able to loan/sign players this season so how come the bulls didn't? They let Samutt and Scruton go while out of admin. The sole focus has been the 6 points and as an outsider looking in, minimal effort has been made to get a team to get the points back.
Certain fans see this as mostly the fault of external powers but my view (No doubt if everyone wasn't on a warning I would get slaughtered) the main fault lies with the management of the club. Marc Green talks well but surely this year he has been more at fault than Francis Cummins?
Sad for the fans who the club has really let down (including this year). When there was previously promotion and religation Bull fan didn't even worry if it was fair or not. But people need to accept reality, statements about the appeal been for the good of the game and dropping it soon as 6 point back are no good says it all. Has it been confirmed he has dropped this yet?
Good luck for the future stick together as fans and as a club. Stop the I know more than you stuff and calling people idiots because they have and opinion.'"
The problem is far more complex than that db. Letting players go whilst out of administration, turned out to be not the case at all, we were not out of administration according to the RFL. Believe it or believe it not the main problems stemmed from having to start from a base of nothing left in the kitty, ie no season ticket money and £650k less than other SL clubs, with them also picking up the extra proportion of that share for two years. Plus no "sugar daddy" to help bale us out, whilst living in rented property.
We don't blame every one else, and yes the fault lies with poor decisions in the years from 2006 to 2010, it's a sweeping statement to say the blame lies elsewhere, just as it's too simplistic for someone to say, just get over it and get on with rebuilding...the people who attempted to save the club, were well meaning and did their best in very difficult circumstances, let me put it into context: If you played out every game of the regular season as a SL club. Knowing that whoever the opponents were ( home or away) they would share your lost revenue of £1700 per game and they also would be getting a full share of the SKY compensation money, amounting to approx. £24,000 more than your team were getting per game (ie nearly £26,000) would you be totally happy and just accept it, and move on???
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The choice seems to have been don't accept it and don't move on. The new owner knew what he was signing up for and I would expect he met with the RFL and the coach to dicuss what was required and sadly for you he has failed to deliver that. I can see cut cost but I can't see if he invested for the future. I fear that the new owner is no better that the old.
When the Ricahrdsons left Wakefield after year of running the club our new chairman was seen as a saviour and did more damage in one year. I'm not saying your in the same boat but let see what team he give Jimmy the resources to put together. Good luck and no doubt we will be meeting in the middle 8 league next year.
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| Quote ="BoroBull"Well you have got three posts from me now. Hope your pleased with yourself FA, making me waste my time on here instead of watching Jeremy Kyle all day!!! Oh hope MG drops the court case! Well that's me done till 2016, don't be too upset FA.'"
My personal guess is that the court case will quietly disappear into the sunset but it's a shame as it would have aired some rather dirty RFL washing. I know a few club chairmen will be disappointed if it does die a death. One consequence of nobody ever following through their allegations against Red Hall is that the incumbents are left to continue to run the show, and the seemingly widespread discontent about how they are doing it is just left to fester. But hey ho, nothing the fans can do about it so that's life.
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| Quote ="Dannyboywt"I understand all you say, but the stock answer from you board was "No one is available" rather than "with funding as it is we will have to get by with what we have got".
The choice seems to have been don't accept it and don't move on. The new owner knew what he was signing up for and I would expect he met with the RFL and the coach to dicuss what was required and sadly for you he has failed to deliver that. I can see cut cost but I can't see if he invested for the future. I fear that the new owner is no better that the old.
When the Ricahrdsons left Wakefield after year of running the club our new chairman was seen as a saviour and did more damage in one year. I'm not saying your in the same boat but let see what team he give Jimmy the resources to put together. Good luck and no doubt we will be meeting in the middle 8 league next year.'"
It begs the point that MG feels that there is more to it than just the 6 points, which at the time of the appeal was likely to not make any difference anyway..however something does make a difference with his stance...something akin to what was said and who said it, and who believed it, at the time it was said, by a person who said he didn't say it anyway? Not sure I could sort that out.
Time will tell us once again, whether we will move on in the right direction. However it's a big ask, and the RFL have lost another big chunk of their "attendance figures" to persuade the sponsors that the game is worth sponsorship in the future..with London--Sheffield- and Bradford in the championship this will be a population in excess of 2 million who won't boast a professional SL club in their catchment area??? Who next Leeds, as the population is over 600k.
The RFLs idea of expansion is like the builder who builds an extension to enlarge his property, but puts it on the inside?
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