I did indeed fail to score a point against Featherstone. This is mainly because I wasn't playing. We did indeed blame the players for not doing the business and those responsible for the debacle are largely gone.

So given the change in personnel, I can only assume your harking back to the debacle is pure and poor trolling. if we had kept the same squad you would have a point. Smith couldn't do anything with that squad and neither frankly could the Lord himself.


Third spot and playing like plonkers was the whole point, you plank! "Got us to 3rd spot" my arrrse! We had gone and were going backwards, Leigh were going forwards. "Getting to 3rd spot" is utter bollox and bilge.It cost lowes his job and rightly so. Credit to him for realising it was not happening and falling on his sword. he had the club's best interests at heart in doing so.


Surely you get the point that the failings of last season were 90% the players, the choice of players to acquire, and Lowes' coaching? Smith simply can't take much blame having been in the job 5 minutes, with someone else's squad. And even then he managed to bring in a couple of what are now the division's leading players.

Conflating the financial morass with Smith is your most stupid point though. If anyone is to blame, then it is the players who couldn't finish in the top 4. Fev was one game, but we weren't in 5th at that stage by accident, we were there because we had a team performing poorly, and it was not Smith's team.

Finally, Smith was in no way a "saviour" coach. Lowes had gone, so we HAD no coach! Whoever we then got was simply our next coach. Whether he will end up being our saviour remains to be seen, but give the lad a fookin chance!

I would never gloat at a team in trouble because if we don't get back in SL at the first attempt I worry for our future and we could be in the championship for some time

The one thing that Leigh have shown is that it is very unlikely to be done without substantial financial input. We certainly don't have that much clout in the money department, and whilst Chairman Green has certainly put money in, it is far from unlimited.

A long term plan bringing through the young players is the only way we'll do it.

The problem is that they don't stay and we become a feeder club. It seems we're already doing a fair job of that, just look at the England side and weep.

If we can instill the faith of going back up into the younger players then maybe it will work out in the longer run. What it needs is four or five to come through all at at once - if we get one or two, in dribs and drabs, they'll leave as soon as they feel unchallenged by the Championship [and they'd be barmy not to go, imo, a few in the same couple of years intake and maybe there is a chance you'll persuade them to 'keep the faith' for a season or two. Perhaps..

At Hull KR, I think the consensus is we're 2 quality players short for the Championship campaign at least. A big nasty prop and a fast winger is the priority.

Aaaaaand here we go again.

Well scratch my earlier optimism. Who knows what happens now.

To FA, I rest my case. Your owner is a liar and stated he would never put the club in admin. Your head coach has known about this for weeks and yet still comes out with BS. Also, I wonder what the hold up is over your recent Aus signing, visa issues or simply can't be registered or paid?

Best of luck

That wasn't your case, though!

The owner never said he wouldn't put us in admin so stop making shiit up, indeed that's how he entered the club, precisely BY putting us in admin.

Our head coach is another stupid target, he has come to take the job from fsckin Australia, and only deserves sympathy. You don't know what he knew so put a lid on your nonsense, and even if he did know anything then WTF could he say or do about it?

Your posts are pretty weird

Marc Green told a meeting of staff and players, only a few weeks ago, that he would not put the club in admin.

Why not ask some of your friends at the club, that is not a guess or trolling it's a fact.

Yeah, a tad worried.

Interesting that the RFL are already talking about sanctions i.e points deductions, loss of funding etc



Thanks for the support guys

I have no need to. I know what was said but even if I didn't, Green has stated formally all over the press in recent weeks and months eg 4 August"“strongly reaffirmed the position that he has not looked for and will not consider sending the club into administration.”


What do you expect him to say? Which business ever said,"ell, actually, we're looking at administration in a few weeks?

Them's the rules.

Indeed, and the Omar precedent suggests that any new applicant for the licence (not that I expect there to be one) would have to forego half next year's funding.

If they don't do that, then maybe Omar should see his lawyers as it surely can't be a condition imposed for him alone.

Whilst Green is still making positive noises and the RFL are mumbling lip-service and non-committal support, Bongser thinks that this may well turn out to be a very black day for THE NORTHERN CODE. Perhaps, yet again, expansionist dreams are placing the very heart beat (stet) of the sport in jeopardy in order to satiate Knight Rupert.

Even as a Leyther, Bongser is right with The Bulls. Sorry that, by a very long chalk, he is unable to bail them out. Good Luck! Yead oop n keep gooin' (for all of us)

Have you been drinking? Or I have I?

Bongser cannot, of course, speak of Debaser's intake, but it can be taken as a truism that first-mentioned might have had a few over the eight (generally half seas over the eight to work in an old phrase). Which bit puts Debaser in mind of the possibility / probability / definicy (?) of intoxication that Bongser might qualify / expand etc on his comments?

Might not even have a team at this rate to be worried about

I have now. But clearly not enough.

Debaser, Bongser is reminded of a sign in some halls bar in Bradford (many years ago when Bongser was a student at The University there) that read something like:

This bar is dedicated to gentlemen that can buy their beer, drink their beer and yet remain gentlemen.

Lesson for life, learned in Bradford - and Bongser does try to adhere to that underlying sentiment.

He does, also, recall a pub, close to campus, named The Fighting Cock. Bongser went there with the rest of (a pretty decent) B University RL team that was only playing Newcastle Poly (now something like the Uni of Sth Shields - they hadn't won all season in the BUCARLA league). The next day we led 24-0 at HT only to lose 24-26. Legs gone.

Bongser bought his ale, supped his ale, but couldn't even remain a mediocre rugby player.

Bongser tells you this merely to let you know that, when he voices his support in Bradford's present predicament, it is from someone that lived in the city and played the game there (to the best of his modest ability). He genuinely hopes that things work out over there

Hey, I went to Bradford Uni too. I didn't manage to do anything quite as energetic as playing a sport though, but yes, lots of beer.

Drinking beer, especially in Public Houses, is another sport that is threatened. That, however, may be a topic for an Off-Topic thread. Nice to meet you, Debaser.

You too mate.