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Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"It sure is. I'm sure we had a season recently where we went in with either 1 or 2 halves and I remember everyone on here saying the same thing about lack of back ups. Need a back up halfback and a couple of props. At the moment I have England and Crossley as starters with Fleming, Nzoungou and Scurr as rotation. We're fine in the second row. Arguably our strong point at the moment.
If that's the same Anthony Walker that's brothers with Johnny Walker (our ex player) then I don't want them anywhere near the club. Sooner have Barlow for another year.
Ah I didn't realise Race and Jowitt were halves, thought they were FB's. I don't know much about these new academy/reserve lads. A couple of years ago I knew who was coming through etc. Nowadays with the teams being stripped year on year I'm not sure who the next 'big thing' coming through are haha.'"
Your thinking of Adam Walker (jonnys brother)
Anthony Walker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11460427 ... condition/
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If that's the same Anthony Walker that's brothers with Johnny Walker (our ex player) then I don't want them anywhere near the club. Sooner have Barlow for another year.
Ah I didn't realise Race and Jowitt were halves, thought they were FB's. I don't know much about these new academy/reserve lads. A couple of years ago I knew who was coming through etc. Nowadays with the teams being stripped year on year I'm not sure who the next 'big thing' coming through are haha.'"
Your thinking of Adam Walker (jonnys brother)
Anthony Walker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11460427 ... condition/
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| Looking at the squad as it is we have a really good 17:
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7. Jordan Lilley
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Quote ="RagingBull"Your thinking of Adam Walker (jonnys brother)
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11460427 ... condition/
Hes been with the club since before lock down. Its nothing top secret, hes been posting photos and vids on his social medua for quite some time of him being at training and being on the zoom calls during lockdown.'"
Thank god for that. Case of mixing up players haha. In that case I'd take a punt on Anthony Walker as a back up to Crossley, England, Nzoungou, Fleming and Scurr. Same concerns as with Barlow though, would he be okay playing having so long out? Wouldn't want him to take a hit and make his condition worse either.
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Anthony Walker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11460427 ... condition/
Hes been with the club since before lock down. Its nothing top secret, hes been posting photos and vids on his social medua for quite some time of him being at training and being on the zoom calls during lockdown.'"
Thank god for that. Case of mixing up players haha. In that case I'd take a punt on Anthony Walker as a back up to Crossley, England, Nzoungou, Fleming and Scurr. Same concerns as with Barlow though, would he be okay playing having so long out? Wouldn't want him to take a hit and make his condition worse either.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Looking at the squad as it is we have a really good 17:
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5. Joe Brown
6. Danny Brough
7. Jordan Lilley
8. Steve Crossley
9. Thomas Doyle
10. Anthony England
11. Aaron Murphy
12. Brad Gallagher
13. Sam Hallas
14. George Flanagan
15. Dan Fleming/Levy Nzoungou
16. Adam Rooks/Brad England
17. Ebon Scurr
With Wallis, Foggin-Johnston and Hamlett covering the 3/4 line. Still think we need another centre. Couple props to rotate the lads in the 17. We don't look half bad to be fair!'"
Agreed. I'm really looking forward to next year, providing we're in the championship. I think some forget how well we started last year.
We lost to London on goal kicks (that 5 year problem has been sorted with Brough) gave Fev one hell of a game, pushed Wakey all the way and one of the most enjoyable matches I've been to in years, a total 80 minute domination of Sheffield. We would have obviously tailed off as we got into the season grind. But I loved seeing the likes of Gallagher, Doyle, Scurr dish it up. I much prefer seeing that than the show ponies who flattered to deceive in recent years.
We haven't lost anyone from last season. Pickersgill, Dawson-Jones, England are still here. The likes of Scurr, Doyle and Gallagher will be another year older. We've got some much needed experience in Brough and Murphy (who I think is an unbelievable signing) plus we'll also have more young stars breaking through from the academy. As others have said, let's see what sort of squad we've got come the season kick-off. One or two quality forwards and I think we've got a very good squad for this league.
I think we've got a team we can be proud of and get behind.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Agreed. I'm really looking forward to next year, providing we're in the championship. I think some forget how well we started last year.
We lost to London on goal kicks (that 5 year problem has been sorted with Brough) gave Fev one hell of a game, pushed Wakey all the way and one of the most enjoyable matches I've been to in years, a total 80 minute domination of Sheffield. We would have obviously tailed off as we got into the season grind. But I loved seeing the likes of Gallagher, Doyle, Scurr dish it up. I much prefer seeing that than the show ponies who flattered to deceive in recent years.'"
A lot of people also forget Lilley was kicking in that London game and he's a poor goal kicker. Don't understand why when we had a much better kicker in Milnes as proven by the next 3 games and of course last season when Milnes took over from Minchella against Leeds. If Milnes had been kicking we would have drawn that game against London. Just unfortunate that that big of theirs (Armitage I think) had a really good game. It was a really good start to the season. The Wakefield and Sheffield games for me were the ones where I sat back and said, we have enough here to get into the playoffs and scare some teams. Obviously Toulouse, Leigh and Widnes would have been extremely tough games. Same here, loved Gallaghers no nonsense play, didn't take any messing about and gave as good as he got. Scurr played very well too! Doyle's class but we knew that from 2019 anyway.
Quote ="Bull Mania"We haven't lost anyone from last season. Pickersgill, Dawson-Jones, England are still here. The likes of Scurr, Doyle and Gallagher will be another year older. We've got some much needed experience in Brough and Murphy (who I think is an unbelievable signing) plus we'll also have more young stars breaking through from the academy. As others have said, let's see what sort of squad we've got come the season kick-off. One or two quality forwards and I think we've got a very good squad for this league.
I think we've got a team we can be proud of and get behind.'"
A lot of home grown talent too as usual. Murphy (on paper) is the signing of the season for us at the moment. Not sure how we've got him when he can still do a very good job in a mid-table SL or lower table SL team, never mind top end Championship. Yet chose us. I have to think that may be the Kear connection. Aye that's a key point, few more signings and we have a very competitive squad for this league, not SL.
I'm really looking forward to it! Hopefully we have an 'easier' team first up at home to start the season and hopefully give the lads some confidence from the off.
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| Well for the first time in a while we actually have a home shirt ready for Christmas
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| Ooh the purists might have something to say. Not sure that's technically Red, Amber and Black in the correct order. Bullseye will kick off.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Ooh the purists might have something to say. Not sure that's technically Red, Amber and Black in the correct order. Bullseye will kick off.
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Black, Red, Black, Amber and Black....its catchy, get the site changed to match
Well, tradition also dictates we normally play in Bradford, so what the hell. I like it, and I'm tempted to ask santa for it, almost just for the novelty of having a good looking home shirt to buy for xmas for once!
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| I really like the kit. At Wibsey we had Steeden gear like 3 seasons ago and I always thought it was great gear so glad to see they’ve done a great job with the kit.
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| I’d forgotten about Anthony Walker. He was unlucky at Wakefield he was with us when Fifita, England, Huby and a few others were ripping it up and never really got a look in. What I saw of him I liked.
As for Brough you’re on a winner there. Brough is a rarity, he loves money for sure but he loves playing even more. Whatever Brough standard now is I guarantee he will play at 100% of that standard. There is also no doubt he’s the smartest halfback in the British game, his legs have gone a bit but his mind is as sharp as ever. Will also make Lilley a better player.
With Brough on the field and JK off you’ve got a better chance than you think. Those two just gel and together can make other ordinary players look much better.
I see you as top 6 for certain so long as you don’t pick up too many injuries.
On the down side there isn’t much in that team you could take into SL.
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| Quote ="vastman"I’d forgotten about Anthony Walker. He was unlucky at Wakefield he was with us when Fifita, England, Huby and a few others were ripping it up and never really got a look in. What I saw of him I liked.
As for Brough you’re on a winner there. Brough is a rarity, he loves money for sure but he loves playing even more. Whatever Brough standard now is I guarantee he will play at 100% of that standard. There is also no doubt he’s the smartest halfback in the British game, his legs have gone a bit but his mind is as sharp as ever. Will also make Lilley a better player.
With Brough on the field and JK off you’ve got a better chance than you think. Those two just gel and together can make other ordinary players look much better.
I see you as top 6 for certain so long as you don’t pick up too many injuries.
On the down side there isn’t much in that team you could take into SL.'"
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"Tbf I do agree with most of that though I do think there are a few that would go well and a few that could do with a chance at superleague level'"
Always an unknown, it's more than possible that some would, tbf you'd know better than me.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Always an unknown, it's more than possible that some would, tbf you'd know better than me.'"
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| From the T&A
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Joe Burton and Rian Rowley will join Leigh Beattie’s under-19s for the 2021 campaign.
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| Quote ="PHILISAN"From the T&A
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Joe Burton and Rian Rowley will join Leigh Beattie’s under-19s for the 2021 campaign.
Seems we have high hopes of these guys for the future.'"
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| Like to add, I was very critical of the old Bulls and those fans on here who covered for them, still am.
No club is bigger than the game and no club has the right to the top flight.
Sorry but you got what you deserved, the club, not the bulk of the fans obviously.
Now you’ve done your time imho and I’d love you back so long as it’s on merit.
I honestly think JK and Broughy can get you there. Wouldn’t keep you there but that’s another issue.
Personally I loved playing you lot, a team we always raised our game for. Nothing beats a ground full on all sides,
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| Quote ="vastman"Like to add, I was very critical of the old Bulls and those fans on here who covered for them, still am.
No club is bigger than the game and no club has the right to the top flight. '"
Correct, no club is bigger than the game and you'll probably find that Bulls fans are the most critical of the club (well the previous owners) and I for one am critical of the new owners too, even if I do hope they are right for us.
Quote ="vastman"Sorry but you got what you deserved, the club, not the bulk of the fans obviously.'"
Can't agree with this. I 100% agree we should have been punish for our financial failings (overspending in our winning years, then subsequent admins/liquidation). We should have been punish as the rules stated. However who punishes financial issues by denying the club the very money they are entitled to and contracted too? So along with points deductions our central funding was slashed then given to other clubs which makes more disadvantage. When we were liquidated we should have been relegated to the bottom division (League 1) that's the rules with liquidation. All fans wanted a fresh start at the bottom league on 0 points. However we were forced to stay in the Championship, forced to take the lowest funding, banned from signing players (hence the loans from Leeds) which meant a threadbare squad filled with kids AND given a 12 point deduction as our 'price' to stay in the Championship?? How is that getting what we deserved? We deserved to be treated according to the rules and we weren't. We did deserve punishment but not what we were actually given. I'd have said the same about any club.
Quote ="vastman"Now you’ve done your time imho and I’d love you back so long as it’s on merit.
I honestly think JK and Broughy can get you there. Wouldn’t keep you there but that’s another issue.
Personally I loved playing you lot, a team we always raised our game for. Nothing beats a ground full on all sides,
Best of luck'"
Yeah I'd prefer to come up on merit. Really looking forward to the season. Built a decent squad and the Championship is a great competition with some great teams in it. Love the games against Leigh, Featherstone, Widnes, Halifax and York. Yeah Brough will be good but as you say need investment in the squad to go up and stay up. JK could still do a job in SL, better than some coaches.
Hopefully we'll be playing you soon Who is it that you support again?
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| Update from Startrax
PROGRESS UPDATE
Following an exhaustive day and meetings Friday we have completed agreement to proceed with ODSAL in 2021 and work will commence in January with a confirmed planned opening of SATURDAY April 3rd followed by 24th April.
There remains an awful lot remaining and many, many more meetings, the first this Thursday in terms of stadium licensing, our hope is to have the 'build plan' in place by Friday, I would like to thank all that came along to Odsal friday, FWJ, JJ, Pete Falding, Karl, Graham Robson, Scott [ contractor , our track curator Andy Meredith, Andy and Sam and forgive any I may have missed, to consolidate the 'scheme' into workable reality. Beyond our control in the late Winter is weather during the build.
SO we move from one phase to the 'reality' phase and I am under no illusion, this is where the stress and hard miles start! Thankfully we have some great people around us. We have a 'budget' however we have to stick to that budget without which, it ceases to be viable and I have no 'money tree' as such to draw upon. However, we are humbled by the 'support' from Stock Cars, Bulls fans and Speedway and all have a part to play in 're booting' the stadium in an affordable manner. Over Christmas when it is quieter, assisted by Sophie we are going to data basis the scores of people, skilled and unskilled who have kindly offered support to then arrange a workplan within the stadium during February and March - it is all achievable and #MAKEODSAL HAPPEN is our sports coming together as a community to 'help' rarely bring a major stadium back from the brink of extinction - it is a team effort and has to be. It was great to also welcome Gary Stead along Friday and we are seeking to encourage Gary's involvement from a speedway perspective for the future which looks 2022 and beyond.
2021 is NOT going to be easy with the future for the country being 'uncertain' and we have weighed that heavily in our own 'risk factor' as much as the Bulls and RFL will be. Hence, for the first two events the initial availability will be 2000 per event - IF as the late Winter into Spring progresses, we will have a bigger understanding of where we are going, at this stage we have to be realistic - or defer the project.
Tickets for the two April openers will go on sale 10.am January 1st and the best support and contribution for us would be a 'sell out' lol - we will also be putting on sale, 140 only VIP South Stand 5 year debenture seats - again limited availability in superb and unrivalled facilities.
We are therefore committed that Odsal WILL open in 2021 and at this juncture with the huge workload ahead, hope we can trust in and rely upon the support from our communities to help this complete.
In ending I would like to thank Tony Sutton COO of the RFL in is guidance and support to 'make this happen' and our new friends at Bradford Bulls, Nigel, Mark and hardworking secretary Tracey and be assured between Bulls and Stock Cars we are very much 'as one' to overcome issues and 'work together' to create a new and viable future for Odsal. Our mantra will be to hopefully under promise and over deliver and be honest.
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I’m hoping the first game is against either Whitehaven or Swinton at home. To hopefully get off to a win followed by an away day at York or Featherstone to get a good atmosphere.'"
Theyll prob go derby's first off, with the hope crowds are allowed back.
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PROGRESS UPDATE
Following an exhaustive day and meetings Friday we have completed agreement to proceed with ODSAL in 2021 and work will commence in January with a confirmed planned opening of SATURDAY April 3rd followed by 24th April.
There remains an awful lot remaining and many, many more meetings, the first this Thursday in terms of stadium licensing, our hope is to have the 'build plan' in place by Friday, I would like to thank all that came along to Odsal friday, FWJ, JJ, Pete Falding, Karl, Graham Robson, Scott [ contractor , our track curator Andy Meredith, Andy and Sam and forgive any I may have missed, to consolidate the 'scheme' into workable reality. Beyond our control in the late Winter is weather during the build.
SO we move from one phase to the 'reality' phase and I am under no illusion, this is where the stress and hard miles start! Thankfully we have some great people around us. We have a 'budget' however we have to stick to that budget without which, it ceases to be viable and I have no 'money tree' as such to draw upon. However, we are humbled by the 'support' from Stock Cars, Bulls fans and Speedway and all have a part to play in 're booting' the stadium in an affordable manner. Over Christmas when it is quieter, assisted by Sophie we are going to data basis the scores of people, skilled and unskilled who have kindly offered support to then arrange a workplan within the stadium during February and March - it is all achievable and #MAKEODSAL HAPPEN is our sports coming together as a community to 'help' rarely bring a major stadium back from the brink of extinction - it is a team effort and has to be. It was great to also welcome Gary Stead along Friday and we are seeking to encourage Gary's involvement from a speedway perspective for the future which looks 2022 and beyond.
2021 is NOT going to be easy with the future for the country being 'uncertain' and we have weighed that heavily in our own 'risk factor' as much as the Bulls and RFL will be. Hence, for the first two events the initial availability will be 2000 per event - IF as the late Winter into Spring progresses, we will have a bigger understanding of where we are going, at this stage we have to be realistic - or defer the project.
Tickets for the two April openers will go on sale 10.am January 1st and the best support and contribution for us would be a 'sell out' lol - we will also be putting on sale, 140 only VIP South Stand 5 year debenture seats - again limited availability in superb and unrivalled facilities.
We are therefore committed that Odsal WILL open in 2021 and at this juncture with the huge workload ahead, hope we can trust in and rely upon the support from our communities to help this complete.
In ending I would like to thank Tony Sutton COO of the RFL in is guidance and support to 'make this happen' and our new friends at Bradford Bulls, Nigel, Mark and hardworking secretary Tracey and be assured between Bulls and Stock Cars we are very much 'as one' to overcome issues and 'work together' to create a new and viable future for Odsal. Our mantra will be to hopefully under promise and over deliver and be honest.
Thank you,'"
Doesn't sound like a professional outfit - more like a bunch of enthusiasts trying to chuck a pub football team together.
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