At least the Bulls won't be battling against relegation for the whole of next season (hopefully), not like some of the clubs in SL1. It'll make a pleasant change.

That is impossible THIS SEASON because theres 6 from SL1 but only 2 from SL2 in that list. Next season as you say is another issue.

my cup is half empty when its right to be half empty and half full when ditto. and this is very much a half full moment, indeed it will be a pleasant change fifty50. And thats just the fans view, think how the players will feel.

Aaah I get it. You're a terrible attempt at an Internet troll.

Right very good

Yes exactly, we cannot win can we FA? before we get relegated a load of PhDs telling us thats what we [udo[/u need, then when we do get relegated, a load of PhD's telling thats what we [udon't [/uneed. Enough to test one's patience isnt it?:

so here we go:

p**s off mashedpotatobrain.

Sorry mods, I claim self defence

Could somebody try answer my question please

Probably another thing the RFL haven't figured out yet

Actually that's wrong. I was making the point about a middle 8 playoff between this seasons sl and this seasons championship. With the point being that the massive insurmountable gap that apparently exists according to some and people of a glass half empty persuasion, would, IMHO, be bridgeable by Leigh - this season. So if Leigh could possibly do it this season, why can't somebody do it next season? Anything could happen.

And i have no problem thinking about potentially being in top 4 next season, and looking how we might get back up. You can bet that's how jimmy will be thinking! I'm fed up of being miserable and thinking the worst, I'm looking for the positives and I don't care. COYB.

I believe the u19s is being restructured next year, with 10 "elite" academy's making up the first division and the rest after. The 10 elite will recieve a bigger slice of the development pie, and have knock on affects with how the clubs operate. The other clubs will still be expected to run an academy, but on a shoe string budget (obviously).

Whether or not bulls are in the top division depends on whether they are one of the magic 10

Next season. Bradford and London will receive £750k, 1st and 2nd in the championship this season will receive 500k and 450k respectively next season. The champ clubs in previous seasons received a maximum of 90k. The champ clubs salary cap was 3-400k. The salary cap will be increased to around a million in 2015 for clubs that can prove they can afford it. Quota rules allowed ONE overseas player in 2014. It is rumoured to be increasing to 5 for 2015 which is on par with SL. There are no FT teams in the championship this season. Next season there will be at least 3 probably 4.

IMO the RFL have made a creditable effort to close the gap and hopefully makes for an exciting end to the season. Also in the middle 8 the Champ clubs will get 4 home games and 3 away and the SL clubs only 3 at home and 4 away. Will London even make the middle 8?

Hope that's not true. How do the RFL define the magic 10? Academy league table position? If that's it we're screwed as we're currently bottom. Or do they go who's producing the best academy players?

Why does everything have everything have to be complicated and controversial with the RFL.

Dual Reg surely has to be scrapped next year, so we could have players too old to play for u19s not playing at all. Or will academy's be U21's? Criminal stuff like this isn't sorted yet. Sure we'll have another club vote on it though with extra finding

Quote ="Bull Mania"Hope that's not true. How do the RFL define the magic 10? Academy league table position? If that's it we're screwed as we're currently bottom. Or do they go who's producing the best academy players? Why does everything have everything have to be complicated and controversial with the RFL. Dual Reg surely has to be scrapped next year, so we could have players too old to play for u19s not playing at all. Or will academy's be U21's? Criminal stuff like this isn't sorted yet. Sure we'll have another club vote on it though with extra finding'" For that, I have no idea. Having said that, I've read (yet another) set of rules coming in, so I may be wrong (but it has the same set of questions you raise): www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... t-centres/

Quote ="Bull Mania"Hope that's not true. How do the RFL define the magic 10? Academy league table position? If that's it we're screwed as we're currently bottom. Or do they go who's producing the best academy players? Why does everything have everything have to be complicated and controversial with the RFL. Dual Reg surely has to be scrapped next year, so we could have players too old to play for u19s not playing at all. Or will academy's be U21's? Criminal stuff like this isn't sorted yet. Sure we'll have another club vote on it though with extra finding'" For that, I have no idea. Having said that, I've read (yet another) set of rules coming in, so I may be wrong (but it has the same set of questions you raise): www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... t-centres/

The teams above us have had the luxury this season of being protected from relegation (it being obvious for some time that London and the Bulls would go down) and being able to focus on making the play offs. They're playing without too much pressure. It could be a different matter if one of them becomes detached at the bottom of SL next season. At the moment it seems very unlikely that a Championship club could beat one of the teams currently in the 9-12th positions. But its possible that at least one of those clubs will be in decline in 12 months time.

If true that the top 4-5 in the Championship will be full time I don't think the gap between the top 4 and the 4 bottom SL1 clubs will be as wide as some are expecting. The advantage we might have over some is we'll still be full time so won't have to get used to that environment.

and with those fines being carried over to new owners, I can see a few of the lower end clubs being put under extreme pressure to continue at all.

Afaik the half sponsorship for two years was only applied to khan. It isn't a standard punishment. It wasn't applied to Green. He's just suffering affects of second year of khans punishment.

But it is a bit misleading isnt it to look at Bradford and London as 2 of the 'SL' representatives in that league when they have been nowhere near SL level.

Leigh to London is a much smaller gap than Leigh to Hull or Leigh to Hull KR.

Could be interesting times ahead for clubs in the promotion/relegation zone as yo-yoing between the two leagues can have massive implications for clubs and owners. Cloth is going to have to be cut a multitude of ways to cater for the two alternative scenarios.

Well yes, I was just showing an example using this year (as the latest available league table data) to show its not impossible, yes the Bulls and London have not been up to scratch, but that might equally be true of whoever is bottom next year, for whatever reason as yet unknown. If one club could be seen to have a chance in one year, why not another club in another year?

Also, Leigh will be stronger next season than this due if only to going full time -as the Bulls and London will be, and the funding and cap available gap between the leagues, whilst still huge, is not quite as massive as it was this year. Its not an exact guess of course with no-one able to see into the future, and it might well turn out that the 4 SL sides win out in the middle 8, but I'm merely pointing out that IMHO I dont think its the forlorn hope some seem to think it is.

No doubt the advocates of P&R will blame the convoluted system rather than the principle when teams hit the panic button.

Should just be 2 up 2 down, bottom of SL auto relegation, top of Cship auto promotion (with cship trophy),

at least winning a trophy for agining top spot is there unlike how its planned come top and win nothing for effort.

10th & 11 th in SL play each other winner stays up loser = relegation,

2nd & 3rd in Cship play each other winner gains promotion,


***or*** thats being said scrap that aswell and just straight 2 up 2 down lol

Wouldnt it be funny though if infact all 4 Championship teams gained promotion into SL, surely that would leave some serious egg on the faces of the RFL

Far too straight forward. It's a ridiculous idea.

Thats what i thought - back to the drawing board for another idea a bit more inline with RFL standards then