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| We need to play Campbell at full back.
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| Quote ="RickyF1"We need to play Campbell at full back.'"
But considering the article on the Bulls website this week, it's clear they're not going to.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"But considering the article on the Bulls website this week, it's clear they're not going to.'"
It's like Nathan Graham all over again..
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"I think we will end up keeping Oledzki longer than the month's loan. Lilley will 100% go back though!'"
I'd love to keep Oledzi. Thought he was our best forward on Sunday.
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| Quote ="debaser"I'd love to keep Oledzi. Thought he was our best forward on Sunday.'"
I have a feeling we will. Only way I can see him going is if Leeds have a major injury crisis in the pack or they fancy giving him a run out if Leeds get drawn against a lower team in the Challenge Cup. Same with Jordan-Roberts. Lilley will 100% go back and I think they may want Hallas at some point.
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| I'm told Hallas has already played 1st team for them
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| Quote ="herr rigsby"I'm told Hallas has already played 1st team for them'"
Played 3 first team games I think. Two in SL. One in Round 15 (vs. Wigan) and one in Round 17 (vs. Catalans). Then once in the Middle 8's (vs. Leigh). So not a regular and not even an occasional young one like Walters, Handley and Lilley.
I think him staying depends on the fitness of Parcell and Burrow. Both of those will be above Hallas for the hooking role. Unless they want to play Hallas in the Challenge Cup. And of course depending on the outcome of Scott Moore.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"I have a feeling we will. Only way I can see him going is if Leeds have a major injury crisis in the pack or they fancy giving him a run out if Leeds get drawn against a lower team in the Challenge Cup. Same with Jordan-Roberts. Lilley will 100% go back and I think they may want Hallas at some point.'"
Can't say I've really noticed Jordan-Roberts much. But at the moment we need some depth in order to rotate the likes of Bentley & Wilkinson and not burn them out, so unless we sign more players, keeping him would be good.
Oledzki I would definitely like to keep as again we need to rotate props a bit, and he's looked pretty good.
Lilley as much as we'd all love to keep him, I think that was likely only ever meant to be short term anyway.
Hallas, if Scott Moore ends up avoiding a jail term and staying, I'm not sure we need to keep him. Moore & Lumb are more important to be playing. Only if one of them gets injured that Hallas would get a sustained run, and then it's only so we don't have to play Halafihi again. Hallas staying is only important if we don't keep hold of Scott Moore for a variety of potential reasons.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Can't say I've really noticed Jordan-Roberts much. But at the moment we need some depth in order to rotate the likes of Bentley & Wilkinson and not burn them out, so unless we sign more players, keeping him would be good.
Oledzki I would definitely like to keep as again we need to rotate props a bit, and he's looked pretty good.
Lilley as much as we'd all love to keep him, I think that was likely only ever meant to be short term anyway.
Hallas, if Scott Moore ends up avoiding a jail term and staying, I'm not sure we need to keep him. Moore & Lumb are more important to be playing. Only if one of them gets injured that Hallas would get a sustained run, and then it's only so we don't have to play Halafihi again. Hallas staying is only important if we don't keep hold of Scott Moore for a variety of potential reasons.'"
Yeah Jordan-Roberts has been the loanee that I haven't noticed much either! But as you say it spells Wilkinson and Bentley which is key for me. Bentley is more adjusted to 1st team action than Wilkinson and I always thought Bentley would have got a run of games this season regardless of liquidation. Wilkinson is a few years off yet for me.
Agree with Oledzki and Lilley. You are right in that Lilley would only be short term! Class players. Really surprised he isn't in Leeds's starting 13 to be honest.
We won't keep Hallas if Moore avoids jail time. Makes sense really as Moore would get a run in the team, mentor Lumb etc. And it would free up a loan spot for an SL player who may be on the fringes of their team (a prop maybe?). If Moore gets sent down I'd like to see Hallas extend his loan for the season. Heard good things about him and he's been solid with us (won a fair few penalties for us).
Either way I am getting more and more optimistic as the weeks go on!
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| I am optimistic today although the new owners communication skills are diabolical,
They do keep on delivering week on week we are getting stronger and long may it continue!
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| Quote ="bowlingboy"I am optimistic today although the new owners communication skills are diabolical,
They do keep on delivering week on week we are getting stronger and long may it continue!'"
I'm personally not convinced they are delivering. A few kids signing on loan, a potential one month deal for Larroyer, an unknown 7s player who may not even get a visa and someone who's likely to be in prison soon, I wouldn't count as delivering.
But I also appreciate they don't have a lot to choose from, so I'm not going to slate them yet and accept they may need time. Sadly the situation the club is in, we don't have time if they want to try and avoid relegation.
I won't slate them yet, but I also won't sing their praises, as I've seen nothing yet to 100% convince me either way.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"
Either way I am getting more and more optimistic as the weeks go on!'"
Don't worry, Sunday will soon put a stop to that
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| Apart from Lilley who will more than likely be back at the end of the month, re the Leeds players. I would say that's dependent on our form. If we're losing every game then I cant see Leeds wanting to keep their young players in that environment for too long, especially the 17 year old. Hallas maybe a bit longer considering he is a bit older and already played 1st team.
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| Well the 19 man squad is out. Wonder why Lilley and Lumb have been omitted??
Campbell
Bentley
Halafihi
Jordan-Roberts
Keyes
Kirk
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Macani
Magrin
Mendeika
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| No Hallas either due to injury.
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| Pack looks a better, I wouldn't fancy playing against it so that's a good sign..
A couple of bigger front rows and its ok...
Whats wrong with Lumb?
How come no Lilley? they are 2 good players to be out..
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| The absence of Lilley and Lumb is concerning! I personally would line up like this:
19. Johnny Campbell
2. Ethan Ryan
4. Ross Oakes
3. James Mendeika
5. Iliess Macani
6. Leon Pryce
7. Joe Keyes
8. Liam Kirk
0. Scott Moore
17. Ross Peltier
11. Colton Roche
0. Kevin Larroyer
20. James Bentley
14. Oscar Thomas
15. Jon Magrin
31. Mikolaj Oledzki
0. Johnny Walker
For the first time this season the pack looks good! I'd have Thomas on the bench to cover the halves for when Moore needs a spell and Keyes moves to 9. I've gone for a 3rd prop on the bench and experience in Walker as I believe Swinton will try bully us and we need to front up to this and have our pack earn a platform for our halves to work from.
Missing Lilley and Lumb is big especially Lilley's kicking game. But seeing that squad I am confident the lads can get the win.
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| Think Leon could do more kicking, though we need to be much more on the front foot or it hardly matters about who's actually doing the kicking.
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| No Hallas means Halafihi is bound to figure on the bench or even start since I canāt see Beattie making one change to the halfbacks to bring Keyes in then making another during the game to move him to dummy half.
So Moore and Halafihi I think will play since Moore wonāt be fit enough to play 80mins.
Iād prefer Campbell at fullback and Thomas on the bench for his versatility but expect itāll be Thomas at fullback again. Not sure what Beattie will do with the props. Iād definitely play Walker for this game knowing how Swinton play it. Peltier, Magrin and Oledzki make up the four with Larroyer, Roche and Bentley as the backrow. I think Kirk might miss out. Jordan Roberts will probably end up on the bench.
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| Odds on a Scott Moore and Josh Barlow punch up?
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| Quote ="Nothus"Odds on a Scott Moore and Josh Barlow punch up?'"
Odds on a Josh Barlow punch up...
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| Quote ="Nothus"Odds on a Scott Moore and Josh Barlow punch up?'"
Barlow will be involved in some argy bargy that's for sure. He's a few sandwiches short of a picnic. he'll throw a load of swinging arms in the tackle then refuse to take the ball up like last time.
Having Moore, Walker and Larroyer on the field will add much needed experience for dealing with his antics.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Barlow will be involved in some argy bargy that's for sure. He's a few sandwiches short of a picnic.'"
Runs in the family. Hardly surprising that his brother is currently suspended after being in court for kidnapping a doping agent. I can only assume their parentage is sibling based.
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| I really want to see Campbell ahead of Thomas for this one. While Thomas has more skills than Campbell in terms of passing amd kicking, he's also prone to an error at crucial times (Keighley & Rochdale) we simply have to be solid at the back. This is going to be a good old fashioned championship slug fest. Lets use a vastly experienced championship player.
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