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| Quote ="Stanley30"Hard luck but don#'t think the petulant whinning at the end helped endear you club to potential new fans. Dust yourselves down and go again next year as your a big club who we need in SL, Leigh's breaking of the salery cap should lead to a points deduction so I expect you guys to finish top.'"
Leigh's breaking of the salary cap? What are you on about man
If Leigh spend more than they are allowed to on their squad, the rfl just refuse to register the players, it's that simple. There won't be any side breaking the cap, and there won't be any point deductions.
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| Quote ="Stanley30"Hard luck but don#'t think the petulant whinning at the end helped endear you club to potential new fans. Dust yourselves down and go again next year as your a big club who we need in SL, Leigh's breaking of the salery cap should lead to a points deduction so I expect you guys to finish top.'"
This . Dont get mad and you will get another shot next year.
Leigh look as if they are flying but will get a points deduction.
I think their chairman is hoping the deduction will be in the championship and wont count in the qualifiers.
He will be wrong.
I was in favour of the new system at the start but now not so sure.
I genuinley thought ypou could beat Wakey today.
I dont see a club imploding again like wakey have in the last week.
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| Gone pretty much as expected. We were not good enough to take Wakeys place and so we stay in the Championship. We were better than last time and I felt we were in the game throughout but thats not enough. Can't see we will get as good a chance again. Not heard the coaches comments but can imagine what he said.
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| i am truly sorry bradford no words from me would ease the pain i wanted you to win and joins us in super league personally cant stand wakey, good luck for next season.
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| The problem is though it doesn't take much to finish top. We were very poor this season and still got into the £1m game. Couldn't beat the worst team in SL for years though because we played poorly all year but thought we could click our fingers and play like world champions again.
What sickens me is how the worst Sl team are left cheering and laughing at us because no matter how bad they are they are still better than us.
If they had lost would Smith have behaved like that in front of the cameras - I don't think so.
Thanks Jimmy. We will now be known as the sour grapes club.
Mr Green. You now have a few days of serious thinking to do. Keep Jimmy and lose ST sales or take a risk and bring in someone who will get the best out of the players.
Can't say much more as I have just got in but if I ever hear the club say again we are a SL team playing in the championship I will throw up. Get real. We are a championship team full of championship players apart from just a couple.
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| Quote ="debaser"WTF happened at the end? How come the Bulls did not come over to the fans? Way to go!'"
Robbie posted something on twitter about it was so they could let Wakefield celebrate. Not sure I buy that - extremely poor form and even if it's true why would the Bulls fans want to stick around though Wakey celebrating. I just wanted to clap the team off and get home as quickly as possible
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| Quote ="Menston Rhino"Yet another show of pathetic petulance from James Lowes. Covering himself and his beloved club in more sh*t.
The simple facts are that neither of the sides today are worthy of a place in Super League and The Bulls are better served by building for a return over a few seasons.'"
Wakefield are worthy of a place in Super League as they have earned the right to stay up. I wasn't aware of a performance measurement that needed to be passed? No side gaining promotion from any division would instantly be able to compete. It's a building process. Had the Bulls gained promotion then their salary cap would have doubled allowing them to build. If championship teams have to be as good as leeds and wigan to get promoted then we might as well scrap everything other than super league now.
Can't believe I'm having to explain this. This is what it must feel like for nursery school teachers having to explain the obvious.
Edit: Yes, Jimmy acted like a tool and embarrassed himself and the club. I am happy to have him replaced for it.
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| What did Lowes say?
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| He blamed the ref for poor decisions with strong wording. He also blames the system. Just about everything in a very strong manner.
My reply to him is we signed 32 players. The whole team has played SL or higher level. They have played cr*p all year and he is the coach - for now.
Didn't Wakey sack two player for bringing the club into contempt - or whatever the phrase is?
Mr Green, hasn't Jimmy just done that on national TV?
Lets get Glen from Dewsbury and get some fire in their bellies.
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Basically slagged the ref off (unjustly) and then slagged the whole qualifying competition off (some truth but mainly emotions having to watch what his players have had to go through this week).
rugbyleaguehub.com/2015/10/04/vi ... er-league/
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Basically slagged the ref off (unjustly) and then slagged the whole qualifying competition off (some truth but mainly emotions having to watch what his players have had to go through this week).
rugbyleaguehub.com/2015/10/04/vi ... er-league/
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| Morrison would be a good call. Lowes is a poor coach for you lot will only go backwards with hm in charge
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| Head said we'd pull up just short of a victory and unfortunately that is how it turned out. I thought their pack would probably be the difference and I think that was also true today. For all their hard work and endeavour neither Sidlow or Clough really punched through the Wakefield defence. Ferguson was once again our most effective forward and caused Wakefield some problems.
Disappointed yes, but we all knew that everything is stacked in favour of SL clubs and it will take a very special effort for a Championship club to get up under the current rules. I think today was probably the best chance of a Championship club doing it against a very ordinary side by SL standard. Sadly we weren't good enough, definitely an opportunity wasted that I can't see being as good next year even if we make it back into the £1M game.
See Lowes is gobbing off about losing star players now, cutting costs and maybe going PT. Is this true Marc Green, if not you might want to have a word with your head coach. Disappointed with Lowes conduct today with the media, we need more composure from the coach.
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| Quote ="Wise Man"Morrison would be a good call. Lowes is a poor coach for you lot will only go backwards with hm in charge'"
Many fans have said this all season but we had hope that the squad at his desposal might have seen him through. Not many fans have agreed with his tactics or his petulant manner.
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| Jimmy Lowes is absolutely right to criticise the system. We all knew the rules of the competition but many also knew that there is an inbuilt disadvantage to Championship sides. It's not just the financial imbalance in terms of both salary and funding. That is not sour grapes from me-, Wakefield deserved to win
jimmy is absolutely wrong to blame the referee .Silverwood in fact was criticised by Cummings for " breaking protocol" when he obviously consulted the video officials in the incident which led to the missed Addy penalty. That was after the assistant seemed to say he'd seen nothing wrong. I thought Silverwood kept control very well .And when Lowes sees the replays of the 2 disallowed tries he will see the video refs gave the right decision.
Those that watch the recording might want to test their lip reading ability when it cuts to the Wakefield chairman celebrating a try.
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| Gutted you lost would have been great to have you back. With hudds and cas decent leeds would have had a ''big game'' to look forward to nearly every week.
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| Gutted to say the least - just what I expected.
Whilst the game itself was exciting, the whole competition has been predictable.
I think we all knew that the leagues would remain the same for next year. As many have said, they have brought back an illusion of P&R.
Yeah we had a better chance than we thought we would due to Wakeys issues, but in the end we were always fighting a losing battle.
Differences in budget and intensity over the season are just too big to overcome.
Hope we don't go part time - that would see the Bulls become extinct before too long IMO.
Wakey deserved it - we let in a couple of soft tries. Whether or not they deserve to be in SL or not is debatable. They were the whipping boys this year and will be next year.
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| I am gutted. Wakefield were there for the taking, but we coudn't get up to the level of the Leigh and Salford games, and fell tantalisingly short.
I will leave comments about Wakefield's performance to their fans, all i will restrict myself to saying is that despite being below our best, we had every chance to win, but we blew it. Yet we came so close, which makes it worse - much worse. Had Addy kicked the two goals he missed, we would almost certainly now be in SL.
But as he had missed the first one, it was the wrong decision to go for the second one. They were tired, we were on attack, we had six tackles to go, against a team which would be frightened to death and ready t panic, knowing if in that set they conceded, there was no way back.
I really don't think that had we tied, we would have been favourites in extra time and the fact of the kick being so way out wide, and the mess Addy had made from wide earlier, meant it was a serious risk that taking the kick would cost us the game. Whereas taking the pen gave us a great chance for glory.
Without having had much time to think about it, my first impressions are that despite the fact we could and should have won, we had a few players ff the pace. Addy didn't play well, in the sense that he didn't create much and was pretty anonymous . You can't blame him for the kicks, but I would have put money on Shaw to get them.
Siejka is no good. He tries, but his decision making is poor, his kicking is often rubbish, and he is frankly a liability. That was him in a key game, and he never came up with one single play, he never put anyone through a gap, and he just didn't look anywhere near a good player. I've had it with him. No Smith to play against, it was his moment, and he fluffed his lines.
Lauaki shouldn't be anywhere near the team, because he did what he always does, with the exception of he didn't give a penalty away. Fleming deserved his chance.
And that is just about it. I thought most of the rest toiled manfully all day, the defence was great for most of the time, Ferguson was superb, Purtell was not at his best but still very good. Nielsen was decent. Blythe on the wing wasn't my idea of heaven but he did nothing wrong. O'Brien - (why was he spelled? In this game of all games?) was pretty effective.
It would not have taken much at all to turn this poor Wakey team over today, but with no scrum half and half a Gaskell, our toil and effort just lacked the clinical final touch. We spent plenty of time in ther 20 and near their line - but we neer looked dangerous. Siejka is rubbish in that position and his pathetic attempt at a grubber, (I nearly fell asleep while he mustered it) almost cost a try. He akss no questions of the defence but worse, I think he worries the rest of the team, as he doesn't give the impression that he is confident, or that they understand what he's doing.
Why was Lowes moaning about the ref? I thought Silverwood had a decent game. Even doing a Ganson and going to the VR illegally, doing us a favour.
The biggest shame was that Gaskell wasn't playing. I understand why we took a chance, but it simply didn't work, he was undercooked and hesitant, lacking in confidence, and never offered any real threat. It could have worked, but it didn't. The real Gaskell sadly was not on the pitch.
Having read about some of the post-game comments, I fear the worst. For starters, there will be no team as bad as Wakey next year, so that was our main chance, and we blew it. For another, it remains to be seen whether we can keep a relatively settled squad but the fact is that we would need to improve it by acquiring a couple of heavyweight forwards and an actual scrum half, as well as keeping our few SL class existing players, but the clear ominous impression I got was that we have been paying above our weight this season, and that next season, Mr. Green isn't going to do it. Which means we can't significantly strengthen and which leaves us vulnerable to the best players going. I fear we will lose O'Brien and Gaskell and if we do, then that is that. I hope I'm wrong, but we will never have a better chance again. IF (big if) we kept the main part of the squad together and strengthened where needed with genuine quality that we would be a significantly better team in our second season. But whether good enough to beat next season's worst SL side I seriously doubt. And if my fears are well founded, then we will just have witnessed the start of our next demise,because without your Gaskells and O'Briens, there is simply no hope.
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| No other sport would allow you to sign 11 mercenaries as Wakey did in order to keep them up. Had we played the side that lost 11 games or so on the trot then we would have probably won. Mulhalley for example was very pleased when he scored his try but he won't even be playing for Wakey next season! The system is clearly loaded in favour of S/L clubs and the word promotion is a joke.
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| I am writing a disertation on idiots in sport.
Can you name the 11 players and when you can't, can I reference you?
Tit.
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| Quote ="dboy"I am writing a disertation on idiots in sport.
Can you name the 11 players and when you can't, can I reference you?
Tit.'"
How many was it then?
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| 11 players my a... You had the best opportunity you are ever likely to have for promotion.
You played a Trinity team that could have been beaten, and after the disruption to the squad during the week should have been.
I doubt you will ever get a better chance
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| Quote ="The Writer"No other sport would allow you to sign 11 mercenaries as Wakey did in order to keep them up. Had we played the side that lost 11 games or so on the trot then we would have probably won. Mulhalley for example was very pleased when he scored his try but he won't even be playing for Wakey next season! The system is clearly loaded in favour of S/L clubs and the word promotion is a joke.'"
Name them ! Also name the players that lost all these games you talk of...... Plz
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| Are we really going to start getting into all that petty sh*t about signing new players, when we did exactly the same thing?! Or are you forgetting Caro, Clare and Nielsen?
You can't be mad at Wakefield for doing exactly what the current rules allow.
It remains to be seen if the rfl will move the signing deadline forward or not.
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| Of the 13 that started we only had three who were not at the club at the start of the season. How many new players did the Bulls hove. He's right, you are an idiot!
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| This is the a system which allowed Wakefield to stop in super league by winning 3 of 26 games against fellow super league teams lets all remember this.
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