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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Wow, Wakefield really are picking over the carcass. Can't really blame Scruton for finally having enough though. Still once again surprised by his choice of club if he is looking for long term security.'"
which clubs have he cap space? wakey or london, who would you choose
reality hitting home for players and families, already seen on twitter scrutons' wife posting stuff about heer husband leaving
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| more leaving i understand! just waiting for the ferocious armadilldo and bully whatever to tell me i am wrong..so that will be carvell admin and etc etc etc..
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| Oh god it's back
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| TamarGrace hasn't got anything wrong yet guys...
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"He'd see silverware in 2015 if he stayed at Bradford. Championship winners beating Fev in the final.'"
Final of what? You live under a rock or are you a cretin?
League structure changes next year smart
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| Ino dread, it's the voice of doom
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| Wakefield are charmers aren't they.
Rugby league family my asre.
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| Quote ="debaser"Wakefield are charmers aren't they.
Rugby league family my asre.'"
To quote the a previous poster on the VT
Quote Its' strange hearing someone from the Bradford club discussing vultures - I wonder if they're the same ones that took Andy Lynch, Ryan Hudson and Michael Platt, along with an attempt to get Michael Shenton when they became free agents when we were on our knees facing life in the National League a few years back. To me there is very little difference. Clubs only have their own interest at heart, the rugby league family is a family to an extent, until another team can benefit'"
Bullmania hardly dissented in his reply.
Quote While I agree it's probably hypocritical of Franny to say the vultures are circling as we did the same thing on our pomp, you can hardly blame him for doing everything in his power to keep hold of the squad'" .
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| Didn't we take all above when their contracts expired? Would agree slightly different or do we deem any out of contract player signing elsewhere as not morally acceptable
That said you can't blame wakefield for enquiring! let's hope they have done it in correct way and we can get a fee
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Didn't we take all above when their contracts expired? Would agree slightly different or do we deem any out of contract player signing elsewhere as not morally acceptable
That said you can't blame wakefield for enquiring! let's hope they have done it in correct way and we can get a fee'"
Yes, Cas had been relegated due to on field results and we, like many clubs had before us, signed players from the recently relegated club.
And questions have to be asked on how Wakefield who oh so recently had to shed a load of players to "cut their cloth" can now afford to go out signing more players.
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| On a different subject, assuming we can still sign loan players is there a limit to how many you can have at once??
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Didn't we take all above when their contracts expired? Would agree slightly different or do we deem any out of contract player signing elsewhere as not morally acceptable
That said you can't blame wakefield for enquiring! let's hope they have done it in correct way and we can get a fee'"
Yes, Cas had been relegated due to on field results and we, like many clubs had before us, signed players from the recently relegated club.
And questions have to be asked on how Wakefield who oh so recently had to shed a load of players to "cut their cloth" can now afford to go out signing more players.'"
Well thats because of the £300k Sky windfall isnt it?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"To quote the a previous poster on the VT
Bullmania hardly dissented in his reply.
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Cas had already been relegated. And were free agents, Had we been relegated then the players would be free agents. But we have not been yet. Although Wakefield seem to be doing their bit to make sure we are.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Well thats because of the £300k Sky windfall isnt it?'"
Did we not get that? Or was it withheld as an extra penalty? As we know the RFL are big on that.
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| Can't blame scrutes at all. Great guy, needs to do what's best for his family.
Think Agar is realising the only way he'll avoid relegation is to weaken his rivals -pi$$ poor coach, previously I would have wanted wakefield to stay up but can't say I'm feeling much love for them now!
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"On a different subject, assuming we can still sign loan players is there a limit to how many you can have at once??'"
Yes - unless you are London
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| We beat London and Wakey lose to Wigan we're 2
Points behind. We have tough away game at hull (not impossible to get a win) Wakey have a massive game against cats who haven't won yet.
Need to try get Mullally for the season.
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| Quote ="debaser"Wakefield are charmers aren't they.
Rugby league family my asre.'"
Regrettably it is clear that Rugby League is a dog eat dog world and Wakefield are no better and no worse than others.
Cast our minds back to the Hull friendly. Cummins had recruited a side that we all thought could compete. He's now seen the starting props go ( unless there's an amazing u turn ) , his mercurial half back depart, the new half back crocked after 81 minutes of the season and the new back rower and centre/ back rower yet to feature because of injury.
All the decisions on player movement have been taken completely outside his control for 2 reasons. Firstly the administrator is in control and it's Wilson's job to shed as much cost as he can as soon as he can .Never mind a transfer fee-- he'll be looking at reducing the wage bill).I'd guess that it was the administrator that put Scruton on the market not Wakefield making an approach.Secondly the RFL have put the club in special measures, which FC made absolutely clear worried him far more than the points deduction.
The longer this administration lingers , the more likely others will leave. A slow and painful death.
Let's be clear-- poor internal management is the cause of this crisis .
.BUt the RFL cannot and should not escape criticism
I'm sure Messrs Blake and Rimmer can point to this rule or that regulation and tell us they are doing everything by the book. BUT their sudden announcement that they would gainsay the administrators business decision and refuse to accept the transfer to BB 2014 , left the club in even deeper peril .
I really do hope that someone will eventually ask some direct questions of all parties as it appears totally incredible to me that ,given the quite proper and necessary close scrutiny and the regular meetings, Rimmer and Solly did not know the intentions of the BB Board and did not tell them that although they had been passed as fit and proper, their alleged solution for creditor payment was totally unacceptable. If it is established that they did tell that Board, it is just as incredible that the debenture holder continued to press for administration. I am prepared to accept that the question of a points deduction was aired but did they also warn about the special measures scenario?
As it stands they must know that as each asset disappears ( in this case our current player of the year) , the value of the Bulls reduces and the eventual settlement to creditors plummets. And the longer we are in limbo, the less credible the whole competition becomes withLondon and ourselves well behind the 8 ball.
Do Messrs Wood and Barwick intend to say anything?
I will not and cannot blame Scruton or Wakefield. I will decide whether to blame the 2014 board or the Rugby League executives OR BOTH when there is an accurate account of what happened . It's becoming an almost impossible position for FC the staff and the players -- FC in particular has continued the legacy of Mick Potter ,speaking and acting with immense integrity
We need an early resolution but everything I've witnessed makes me despair that it's likely.
Tomorrow I suggest the music played as the teams enter the field is "Always look on the Bright Side"-- for both sides.
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| so with our team in special measures as stated by the RFL players can leave but Bradford can not replace them. So by the end of next week after we have lost 8 first team players to other clubs were F$^&Ked
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| I don't like how the administrator can seemingly work weekends to sell players, but, talks with bidders have to wait until next week. Why do we have to let players go now, why not see where these so called talks with bidders go. By just waiting a couple of days we may be able to keep our best players.
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| Quote ="zapperbull"so with our team in special measures as stated by the RFL players can leave but Bradford can not replace them. So by the end of next week after we have lost 8 first team players to other clubs were F$^&Ked'"
Who would pay the wages of these players you want to bring in?
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| It's back to this duty of care point. How many players can leave before, because you can't bring anyone in, you are playing kids and it ceases to be safe.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"It's back to this duty of care point. How many players can leave before, because you can't bring anyone in, you are playing kids and it ceases to be safe.'"
My safety limit would be a 23 man squad being rotated with loans
It seem obvious the administrator is getting the biggest wages off the payroll first so he can balance the books quicker,hopefully when that happens the special measure can be lifted
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| Quote ="j.c"My safety limit would be a 23 man squad being rotated with loans
It seem obvious the administrator is getting the biggest wages off the payroll first so he can balance the books quicker,hopefully when that happens the special measure can be lifted'"
Think we probably have less than 23 fit players already.
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| Quote ="debaser"Think we probably have less than 23 fit players already.'"
Sounds like you'll need to dip into the u19 for now.
Do you have players out at dewsbury?
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