Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sadly I think most of you have missed the point. I don't want you to tell me whether you THINK we can make the 8. I want you to predict the outocme of every remaining fixture, and then see where that gets you. It may, or may not, be the same thing. The other thing to remember is that every other team has to play its fixtures out as well. They won't all score 2 points a week. Anyway as you are all lazy here's a link to a spreadsheet with my forecasts. But don't argue with my forecasts, and don't tell me your forecasts, do your predictions and tell me where we end up!! That's what I want!!! As you can see there's a line for each fixture and I have put a 2 and a zero as per the fixture list. You can even use a 1-1 if you predict a draw. tinyurl.com/2013SL-forecast'" My PC wouldn't support it, just lots of randomly spaced 2s & 0s all over the page.

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sadly I think most of you have missed the point. I don't want you to tell me whether you THINK we can make the 8. I want you to predict the outocme of every remaining fixture, and then see where that gets you. It may, or may not, be the same thing. The other thing to remember is that every other team has to play its fixtures out as well. They won't all score 2 points a week. Anyway as you are all lazy here's a link to a spreadsheet with my forecasts. But don't argue with my forecasts, and don't tell me your forecasts, do your predictions and tell me where we end up!! That's what I want!!! As you can see there's a line for each fixture and I have put a 2 and a zero as per the fixture list. You can even use a 1-1 if you predict a draw. tinyurl.com/2013SL-forecast'" My PC wouldn't support it, just lots of randomly spaced 2s & 0s all over the page.

AHHHHHHHHH i get it now

If we can do it think its going to come down to us vs KR, again and by doing FA's forecast and one i made myself think we can just sneak it.

But it all depends if Saints crumble if they do we should be able to squeeze past them, along with KR.

wow, didn't realise how hard our run in was.

I don't expect us to beat any of the teams above us in the league, as a reult I don't think we will make it. (only had 3 wins for the remainder of the season)

Hull KR have it tough, and I almost agree with your predictions, although I think they have it in them to grab a win against a stronger team. On my predictions, I had them beating Saints.

Out of the 3 teams, i actually predicted Saints would win the most games, therefore i have Saints in 7th, KR in 8th Bulls in 9th (or below).

Got us to finish 2nd behind Halifax

I got us to finish 8th just, but that is only if we can pull our fingers out,

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sadly I think most of you have missed the point. I don't want you to tell me whether you THINK we can make the 8. I want you to predict the outocme of every remaining fixture, and then see where that gets you. It may, or may not, be the same thing. The other thing to remember is that every other team has to play its fixtures out as well. They won't all score 2 points a week. Anyway as you are all lazy here's a link to a spreadsheet with my forecasts. But don't argue with my forecasts, and don't tell me your forecasts, do your predictions and tell me where we end up!! That's what I want!!! As you can see there's a line for each fixture and I have put a 2 and a zero as per the fixture list. You can even use a 1-1 if you predict a draw. tinyurl.com/2013SL-forecast'" Do I think we will make the top 8? - No. Do I think we will take more points than our rivals? - No. Do I need a weatherman to tell me that it is pi$hing down outside? - No. My forecast - we will not get there. It really does not need a spreadsheet to tell me this.

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sadly I think most of you have missed the point. I don't want you to tell me whether you THINK we can make the 8. I want you to predict the outocme of every remaining fixture, and then see where that gets you. It may, or may not, be the same thing. The other thing to remember is that every other team has to play its fixtures out as well. They won't all score 2 points a week. Anyway as you are all lazy here's a link to a spreadsheet with my forecasts. But don't argue with my forecasts, and don't tell me your forecasts, do your predictions and tell me where we end up!! That's what I want!!! As you can see there's a line for each fixture and I have put a 2 and a zero as per the fixture list. You can even use a 1-1 if you predict a draw. tinyurl.com/2013SL-forecast'" Do I think we will make the top 8? - No. Do I think we will take more points than our rivals? - No. Do I need a weatherman to tell me that it is pi$hing down outside? - No. My forecast - we will not get there. It really does not need a spreadsheet to tell me this.

No. You need an optician instead. It's glorious in God's own.

Unless Cummins and Co manage to improve our defence (gotten worse as the season progresses) and give the Players some desire I think we'll be lucky to win 2 from the remaining fixtures Losing to London in the Challenge Cup seems to have started a downward spiral..

On current form we will not make the 8.

If we improve, and beat all of the teams below us and a team above us (not sure who yet), then I think we have a chance of making 8th.

Ya can't educate wood

Look, you thick utter plank, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE LEAGUE TABLE WILL FINISH GIVEN YOUR HONEST PREDICTIONS FOR EVERY GAME.

This will, co-incidentally, also tell you whether you predict the Bulls will or wil not be in the top 8, but what I want to see you post is YOUR PREDICTED FINAL TABLE.

If it's too hard, fair enough

So can you post your Final Table?

That was a little more difficult than I imagined! lol

I only concentrated on the 3 teams we are discussing though

[urlhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlYBAI9R-zfGdDZEREZYbWhEdFhoTkZHUnBORWpfUEE&usp=sharing[/url

How do you give them a friendly name?

Tsk tsk. Resorting to insults. Poor show.

It is not too hard to do whatsoever. Just a complete and utter waste of time.

However, we will finish 9th, below.

Wigan
Wire
Huddersfield
Leeds
Hull FC
Catalans
St Helens
HKR

in that order.

Don't understand the spreadsheet but:
V Widnes w 2
V Wire l 0
V Wigan l 0
V Hull l 0
V Wakefield l 0
V Catalans l 0
V Cas w 2
V London w 2
V Hudds w 2
Total of 8 more points giving us 24.
I don't think that will be enough.

It's easy. The first line, Salford plays Wakefield. If you think Salford will win, give them 2 points and give Wakey 0 points. and so on.

By my reckoning 24 points would be extremely close. So, on your figure, we are gonna be damn close to the 8 anyway, missing out by maybe only a point. That being the case, nobody can rule us out just yet.

26 points for 8th in 2012, 27 in 2011, 24 in 2010
So 24 this year will be tight to say the least.

I see what FA is suggesting and its a valid point. We should make our own assessments of what results the Bulls might have in conjunction with other team's projected results.
I have created a more interactive Excel spreadsheet than FA's but sadly have no idea how to put it on the forum. TINY and me have a communicative problem. He tells me that he does not recognise me - which is not surprising as we have never met.
However, in the spirit it was asked my calculated assessment of points is a follows
Wigan 45
Wolves 43
Leeds 39
Hudds 38
Hull FC 32
Catalans 31
Saints 30
Bradford 28
Hull KR 24
Wakefield 19
Widnes 18
London 11
Castleford 10
Salford 10

I used Google Docs, which has its own spreadsheet that works similar to Excel, and it lets you create a link for sharing.

NB the first person to do all the predictions agrees with the result, however surprising. Hmm...

Not just surprising...It's amazing as you did not include the fixtures for the penultimate round.
You will see that by summing your total points per club = 364 when in fact it should be 378.
27 rounds of 7 games * 2 points available.

Thanks for the tip on Google Docs I will try this.

I reckon that the top 6 is pretty much a done deal on current form.

However think its then 2 from 4 for the remaining places (Bulls, Saints, Hull KR and Wakey). Given current form and my own opinion, this is what I feel will happen...

Current week
7.HKR - 18pts
8.STH - 17pts
.......................
9.BRA - 16pts
10.WTW - 13pts

Round 19
STH Win vs Salford
HKR Loss vs Cats
BRA Win vs Widnes
WTW Win vs London

7.STH - 19pts
8=BRA - 18pts
8=HKR - 18pts
......................
10.WTW - 15pts

Round 20
STH Win vs HKR
BRA Loss vs Wire
WTW Loss vs Hull FC

7.STH - 21pts
8=BRA - 18pts
8=HKR - 18pts
......................
10.WTW - 15pts

Round 21
BRA Loss vs Wigan
HKR Win vs Salford
STH Win vs Cas
WTW Win vs Widnes

7.STH - 23pts
8.HKR - 20pts
....................
9.BRA - 18pts
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 22
WTW Loss vs Leeds
BRA Loss vs Hull FC
HKR Loss vs Wire
STH Loss vs Wigan

7.STH - 23pts
8.HKR - 20pts
....................
9.BRA - 18pts
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 23
WTW Loss vs Leeds
HKR Loss vs Wigan
STH Loss vs Cats
WTW Loss vs BRA

7.STH - 23pts
8=BRA - 20pts
8=HKR - 20pts
.........................
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 24
STH Win vs London
BRA Loss vs Cats
HKR Loss vs Hull FC
WTW Loss vs Wire

7.STH - 25pts
8=BRA - 20pts
8=HKR - 20pts
.........................
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 25
HKR Loss vs Leeds
BRA Win vs Cas
STH Win vs WTW

7.STH - 27pts
8.BRA - 22pts
...................
9.HKR - 20pts
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 26
STH Loss vs Wire
BRA Win vs London
WTW Loss vs Hudds
HKR Win vs Widnes

7.STH - 27pts
8.BRA - 24pts
...................
9.HKR - 22pts
10.WTW - 17pts

Round 27
STH Loss vs Hull FC
BRA Loss vs Hudds
HKR Win vs London
WTW Win vs Cas

7.STH - 27pts
8=BRA - 24pts
8=HKR - 24pts
........................
10.WTW - 19pts

I reckon its all down to points difference and with games against Wigan, Wire and Hull FC to come it could be very tight for us!!!

Think we will finish above KR by 1 pt, if Brown keeps tinkering at saints the arent a given for the 8 yet, but i fear it will come down to us and KR

I think I've sorted it out now. Have a look. I've also added the actual fixtures to the right hand column to make it easier to read.

The extra fixtures include our home banker against London so you can rest assured, we are already as good as in the 8.

No danger at all.

[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22858719[/url [uBrett Kearney; 5 more wins needed.[/u


BUT HE DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE BLOODY SPREADSHEET!