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You can see that 'hit' again on the guardian highlights. I've watched it a few times and can't make my mind up about it. Hopefully the rfl will think the same!
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Nothing to do with open mindedness.
Which is wrong.
Innocent until proven guilty in Britain.
Don't need to it was a fair tackle as clear as day.'"
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wonder what the chances are of RFL showing us the same leniency they've shown certain other teams repeat offenders. wouldnt be surprised if he gets full 2 matches even though it seemed a fair tackle from my recollection and viewing the video on guardian website.
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| Quote ="zapperbull"Thats me in the Pooooo again.
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Nah . . . . once is "just a slip up". Don't sweat it, no worries. |
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I'll be amazed and disgusted in equal measure if he cops a ban for that, what's his past record like? Did he ever pick up any cautions/bans while he was with the Whinos?
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Such a great "hit"you guys are saying yet it doesnt even get a mention in the T&A ????
Bradford reporter as well.
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| Quote ="PAC"Such a great "hit"you guys are saying yet it doesnt even get a mention in the T&A ????
Bradford reporter as well.'"
You were clearly not there then. |
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No doubt he'll get a ban it's just our luck.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I'll be amazed and disgusted in equal measure if he cops a ban for that, what's his past record like? Did he ever pick up any cautions/bans while he was with the Whinos?'"
he's had a formal caution for a high tackle whilst with us. plus a few no charges |
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| Well it's been officially announced on the Bulls site. Just wish they'd used a different picture to his profile one  |
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Having had a couple of looks at it on The Guardian's website I'm a bit less inclined to think there was anything wrong with it. I'm not sure whether Scruton makes contact with Clinton's head or not, the angles and quality aren't great.
What makes it appear bad is that it's actually (it was massive, a real cruncher) a brutal collision between two 17 stoneish props at a pretty hefty rate of knots. I'm still not convinced that it's not dangerous play to jump into a tackle like that, however, this is RL and you can't penalise players for being big lads. I remember a much smaller player jumping and bringing down Fa'asavalu in a one on one which was rightly proclaimed a fabulous hit.
Interesting call from the RFL this one.
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Live I thought it was just a great hit but, even with the low quality on the Guardians site, I can see why they'd take a look. Assuming the panel doesn't include Cummings and Ganson I'd be disappointed if he was found guilty.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You were clearly not there then.'"
Correct, i read the paper at lunchtime mate and found not a mention. |
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Scroots, served a caution and red card for high tackle when he played for us. He should be ok. Dont think it was a bad tackle from the footage i saw, Dont know what the rfl will think though. I always liked him when he played for us, would always be looking to put a big hit in. Hope he does NOT get banned
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Quote ="teddypicker"How the hell did he stay on the pitch after that tackle.
Should get the full 2 game ban. No justice for us though, makes the Webster sending off more of a joke than it was.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1826'"
Because nearly everyone in the ground that saw it live thought it was just a hard hit... including might I add the entire Hull KR team none of whom complained at the time, and your captain afterwards said on Radio it was just a big tacke that happens in Rugby League and it didn't affect the team or the player.
If the RFL rule differently then so be it, but having watched it again I still dont have a problem with it.
Webster clearly hits Donaldson in the head with his arm whilst he's being stepped so I can see why it was given a red. I've said before though on another thread that I dont think there was any malice in it, it was more a tired and frustrated poor tackle attempt IMHO and I wouldn't have sent him off. (I might be wrong about that too mind as I've not seen that incedent again since seeing it live, but I was standing only about 25m away from it) |
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Should get the full 2 game ban. No justice for us though, makes the Webster sending off more of a joke than it was.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1826'"
Because nearly everyone in the ground that saw it live thought it was just a hard hit... including might I add the entire Hull KR team none of whom complained at the time, and your captain afterwards said on Radio it was just a big tacke that happens in Rugby League and it didn't affect the team or the player.
If the RFL rule differently then so be it, but having watched it again I still dont have a problem with it.
Webster clearly hits Donaldson in the head with his arm whilst he's being stepped so I can see why it was given a red. I've said before though on another thread that I dont think there was any malice in it, it was more a tired and frustrated poor tackle attempt IMHO and I wouldn't have sent him off. (I might be wrong about that too mind as I've not seen that incedent again since seeing it live, but I was standing only about 25m away from it) | |
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I have been trying to watch the replay on the guardian's site however every time a try and watch the highlights an advert comes up and cannot view it, could some one possibly advise why this is happening or provide a link.
Cheers
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| Quote ="mat"wonder what the chances are of RFL showing us the same leniency they've shown certain other teams repeat offenders. '"
Such as Terry Newton? |
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Quote ="teddypicker"How the hell did he stay on the pitch after that tackle.
Should get the full 2 game ban. No justice for us though, makes the Webster sending off more of a joke than it was.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1826'"
Unless I am mistaken, there is no law against the use of the shoulder is there? Unlike the use of the elbow or knee. And as somebody else said, not one Hull KR player appeared to complain! Just accept it was a massive hit!
And unlike a hgih tackle right around the head..........
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Should get the full 2 game ban. No justice for us though, makes the Webster sending off more of a joke than it was.
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1826'"
Unless I am mistaken, there is no law against the use of the shoulder is there? Unlike the use of the elbow or knee. And as somebody else said, not one Hull KR player appeared to complain! Just accept it was a massive hit!
And unlike a hgih tackle right around the head..........
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Am I the only one reminded of Ryan Bailey and James Graham last season? Shoulder made contact with head, everyone screamed it was a terrible tackle and RFL said there was nothing wrong with it (as did the referee on the field)?
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| Quote ="PAC"Such a great "hit"you guys are saying yet it doesnt even get a mention in the T&A ????
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When Jane Clinton comes back from Disney land, ask him what he thought of it? |
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Any body got the footage? or no where to get it
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| IMO after seeing it again, massive hit... and thats all it was. Unless the RFL are going to turn it around and say it was unsportsmanship or something along those lines - for me the more hits like this the better to watch, it gets the team fired up and the fans.
But to say "ask jane clinton after he gets back from disney land" is a complete and utter joke, number one - you wouldnt say it to his face, and number two - ive never seen a hit like that and for the bloke to keep hold of the ball and get up and get on with the game.
In my book thats how it should be.
Great hit by Scruton. 
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