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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I am sorry but it is difficult to be TOO positive when we still have the coach that we have. ... IMO, "the best young coach in Britain" will screw us up again with his inadequacies.'"
This, coming from the tightwad that wouldn't even put up his £20 to sponsor the Burgii, is rich.
Plus, we already KNOW you think McNamara is rubbish. It would save your keyboard and our screen pixels if you didn't bother repeating the same thing every time you post.
It isn't difficult to be positive. In fact, apart from you (and I grant you I can't speak for RER) I don't actually know a single person who isn't positive.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"This, coming from the tightwad that wouldn't even put up his £20 to sponsor the Burgii, is rich.
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My apologies. I had a lot on and I completely forgot about it if the truth be told. Consider myself told off. However, what this has got to do with you, or the point I was making is beyond me.
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| Oh I've just remembered why I don't post much anymore.
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| I think the point is we were all a bit disappointed after last season but some of choose to try to turn that and get involved with something positive, whether that be the sponsoring of the twins or the supporters trust. Constantly deriding the players, coach & club does nobody any good and unless we're prepared to do something to help try to change the situation then nobody benefits.
The season hasn't even started yet and your writing off certain players and the coach, i think with the recruitment made it's a little early to do that. Sure everybody at the club has got some thing to prove, none more so than McNamara. I'm not saying what happened was acceptable and I was one of the people who thought he should have been shown the door, but he's still here and whilst he is I'll give the team and the players my full support....I'm not going to go into the what happens if situations as I'm keeping positive.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"In fairness, King and Sculthorpe are pretty much the same level in terms of ability.
However, Sculthorpe tore us apart when he was at Cas a couple of seasons back with his kicking game (I know, it sounds ridiculous) IIRC.'"
Correct he was very good for us in 2006, his offload was devastating, hope he goes well for you guys, i think some of you are going to be pleasantly suprised.
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"I think the point is we were all a bit disappointed after last season but some of choose to try to turn that and get involved with something positive, whether that be the sponsoring of the twins or the supporters trust. Constantly deriding the players, coach & club does nobody any good and unless we're prepared to do something to help try to change the situation then nobody benefits.
The season hasn't even started yet and your writing off certain players and the coach, i think with the recruitment made it's a little early to do that. Sure everybody at the club has got some thing to prove, none more so than McNamara. I'm not saying what happened was acceptable and I was one of the people who thought he should have been shown the door, but he's still here and whilst he is I'll give the team and the players my full support....I'm not going to go into the what happens if situations as I'm keeping positive.'"
good post there northern lad agree with pretty much all you said there.easy to tell youre not the prick who stood behind me and shouted to platty "will you be playing with these kids all year platty".i mean come on give the guy a break.all the he took last year(some of it warranted i grant you)but he worked damn hard in the reserves,won his place back for iirc the last 10 or so games and did imho bloody well at centre.so then we read in t&a about him having a really good pre season and raring to go next year.then yesterday he starts quite well makes our first break of the game by running a great line,shows good pace,draws full back,times inside pass to halley to perfection and pretty much does everything else in his reasonably long stint without any mistakes or "brainfarts" as some on here like to call them.yet still we get the aforementioned w**kers who spout that garbage.honestly mate whoever you are.why bother going.you do nothing of any use to the team or club at all
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| The problem is that Platt could be SL player of the season in 2010, score 50 tries including winning hat-tricks in the Cup final and GF and you'd still get idiots bagging him. Yes, he's made some howlers in the past, but what's done is done. He lost his confidence and his place in the side. However, he's worked hard to get back into the first team and he's played well at centre. It would be better if the fans who boo him before he's even touched a ball actually watched the game and judged him for what he does now instead of what he's done in the past
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| The Boo Boys seemed to want a scapegoat last year for all of the Bulls ills and Platt was the obvious target for them through a few horrendous errors in clear space at full back. Forgetting some less than lack lustre performances from other players who should have done better.
Whether those singular occassions of error by Platt were due to lack of confidence, ineptitude, poor option selection or whatever other perceived malady did not reflect in his overall application to the games.
Sure he needed work on his limitations and it seems he has had the bottle to do so off-season.
Yup, agree with Roodolfo, lets see him at centre with quality service from Orford and Kearney rather than always being on the back foot from the dire service of last season.
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| We've always had scapegoats, regardless of the success of the side. If you don't like it, make sure to cheer for Platt (and Sheriffe, I suspect) extra loud when given the oppo.
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| There's little to suggest with Sheriffe that he has and could improve.
Though he like any player who pulls on a Bulls shirt should be encouraged by the crowd.
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| In order for someone to be made a scapegoat, there has to be a reason first. Platt was made a scapegoat because of some very poor performances. However as has been quite rightly said, he has done very well at centre, and the scapegoat status for mine should no longer be there. Sadly, there are always going to be those who will never ever forgive or forget.
The other two that are considered scapegoats in our side are Sheriffe and Worrincy. Unlike Platt, they have yet to do anything to help get rid of that status since their poor performances last year. Sheriffe even managed to look crap in the friendly, which really doesn't help things.
While a player should always get support from the fans while they wear the Bradford shirt (and they always will from me), it's understandable that some players are going to continue to be made scapegoats when they are doing nothing to help get rid of that image, by continuing with rubbish performances. In these cases, while they should get support while they are on the field, they should also be criticised for not being up to standard. Platt though has redeemed himself for mine and doesn't deserve the current amount of criticism he gets.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"There's little to suggest with Sheriffe that he has and could improve.'"
If you'd seen him regularly at Quins, you might think differently.
Quote it's understandable that some players are going to continue to be made scapegoats when they are doing nothing to help get rid of that image, by continuing with rubbish performances.'"
The people we're on about are the kind who booed Platt before he even got on the field that time. The type I saw effing and blinding at him in a game last year when he sensibly cut away from touch instead of going for the flag with little chance of success. The people who are seemingly dischuffed when the object of their scorn does anything right.
These people, in my opinion (while accepting they have as much right to their say as anyone else and that their continued financial support through merchandising and the gate is crucial), can go f.ck themselves.
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| Quote ="af"
The people we're on about are the kind who booed Platt before he even got on the field that time. The type I saw effing and blinding at him in a game last year when he sensibly cut away from touch instead of going for the flag with little chance of success. The people who are seemingly dischuffed when the object of their scorn does anything right.
These people, in my opinion (while accepting they have as much right to their say as anyone else and that their continued financial support through merchandising and the gate), can go f.ck themselves.'"
And I completely agree with that. I am all for criticising players who deserve it. If they are playing terribly and still getting in the side, I can understand a groan when they are announced. However I'm also a big believer in the premise that if you're going to criticise players for playing badly, you should also praise them for playing well. There seems to be quite a few people that are not willing to do that with Platt, which isn't really fair. He has more than proved himself to be worthy of a place in our centres in my opinion (in fact, I'd pick him there before Sykes) and it does my nut in to hear people around me at a game just waiting for him to not do something fantastic so they can criticise him.
If he (or anyone) does something worth criticising, then criticise. However slagging them off while they're playing rather well just because a while ago they had some bad games, is out of order.
I suppose though that the same argument could be made for picking players based on performances at their previous club, when they have been poor for their current one
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| Quote ="af"If you'd seen him regularly at Quins, you might think differently'"
I fully admit that I did not watch Shefiffe so much at the Quins. I would respect your opinion as to why his performances might have fallen so short at the Bulls since then.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"I fully admit that I did not watch Shefiffe so much at the Quins. I would respect your opinion as to why his performances might have fallen so short at the Bulls since then.'"
Seems to be an inconsistent/confidence player. Reckon chances are he'll go good this year.
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| Quote ="af"Seems to be an inconsistent/confidence player. Reckon chances are he'll go good this year.'"
I think we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of in attack. But he has poor hands and far too often seems to fumble a poor pass or difficult kick. Unless he can improve this aspect of his game I expect teams will target him with kicks next season.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I think we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of in attack. But he has poor hands and far too often seems to fumble a poor pass or difficult kick. Unless he can improve this aspect of his game I expect teams will target him with kicks next season.'"
there was definitely an issue with his ability to catch the ball. he wasnt helped by sykes getting sucked into middle and leaving him defending 2 on 1 a lot of the time either. he looked a lot better at backend of season when partnered with platt imo and we seemed to stop leaking tries down that side as much imo.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Oh I've just remembered why I don't post much anymore.'"
TBH, neither do I. It is just that after every post I seem to make, the FA just has to come in and make completely irrelevant points in order to try and make himself look interesting. He fails.
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| Red cabbage . . . . . . .
If it's of any interest to anyone, which I assume it isn't, I've been perusing the boards tonight and seen 3 ME posts not followed by FA. Is that statistically valid?
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| Quote ="Bullpower"Red cabbage . . . . . . .
If it's of any interest to anyone, which I assume it isn't, I've been perusing the boards tonight and seen 3 ME posts not followed by FA. Is that statistically valid?
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Doesn't matter whether it is or not, it just once again proves a point about who actually talks rubbish "as usual". Bit like this bit of depressing contradictory negativity - posted on Christmas day I see, when most of the rest of us were looking for reasons to be cheerful:
Quote ="The Spectre at the Feast"As for Reardon?? If you reckon an injury prone has been with off-field issues is a potentially good signing then perhaps you should not be mocking others. People in glass houses and all that......'"
This from the misery who would have us sign an injury-prone has-been with off-field issues Raynor!
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| Ah, sad whenever anyone says they won't post here, given I remember the days when it was just me and Dirty Larry.
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| Quote ="Bullpower"Red cabbage . . . . . . .
If it's of any interest to anyone, which I assume it isn't, I've been perusing the boards tonight and seen 3 ME posts not followed by FA. Is that statistically valid?
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Entirely. He has some paranoia, but just as for comments made by anyone else, I don't post, except where I feel a valid point needs to be made. He doesn't like home truths much, though, and you can predict the personal attacks which (unlike his cheques) will come flying down, but hey ho. It means the point got home.
The thing I've never 'got' is why anyone would post on a forum if they don't want replies/debate/discussion/opposing views? That's a blog, isn't it?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark" He doesn't like home truths much, though, and you can predict the personal attacks which (unlike his cheques) will come flying down'"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"
The thing I've never 'got' is why anyone would post on a forum if they don't want replies/debate/discussion/opposing views? That's a blog, isn't it?'"
Says the guy who blocks the posts of people who he disagrees with!!!!
Brilliant.
What a total hypocrite.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"
This from the misery who would have us sign an injury-prone has-been with off-field issues Raynor!'"
I suppose if you did not jump to conclusions so much you would not be as wrong so often. My point is simply that if that is the type of players we are looking at, then Raynor would be a better shout than Reardon, IMO.
Personally I would prefer neither but when the signing have been such of a high quality that Sheriffe is our only winger then I guess desperation is required.
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