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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"average age of our squad is 23. Including players like Olbison, Donaldson etc. (the ones with squad numbers.) Without these its around 26/27.'"
Are they in the squad or not?
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| Quote ="af"The sad thing is some people actually think this.'"
Totally agree, although I agree Hood should act, the guy deserves a medal for getting us into the Black.
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| I voted no but it was a marginal decision.
I don't know enough about the workings of the club to know how "sustainable" the efforts of Hood et al are regarding ensuring the survival financially, but surely getting rid of the coach at this stage in a season that looks increasingly like it should be (on the field) written off would be financially damaging.
Of course I'm also not privy to any moves regarding a viable replacement and whether they would have any cash to make the playing squad their own - I suspect not given what was reportedly said at the fans forum etc.
What I'm trying to say is that although Plan A obviously hasn't worked this season, I'm not sure there is a Plan B (or whether we could finance one) and that worries me more.
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| Regrettably my answer is YES.
I have stood by Macca for long enough but enough is enough.
We have had to listen to same tosh week after week about 'nearly being there', 'a few things to work on', 'take some positives out of today' and 'we just need to cut out the errors' etc. etc. etc.
The fact is that, week after week, we still make the same unecessary unforced errors, coughing the ball up too easily to the opposition on tackle two or three.
We must also be the MOST INEFFECTIVE and LEAST CREATIVE team in Super League when near to the opposition line, if the forwards can't get over by brute force then we are snookered, in the main our halves are clueless.
Unfortunately the above ultimately now has to be put down to rank bad coaching, we have been working on things since the first day of the season and if anything it has got worse.
CONCLUSION : Yes Times Up!
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"... any skill, tenacity and will to win is being slowly strangled out of them by a sub-standard coach. ...'"
What?
Mac [istrangles[/i their "skill"? He is strangling their "will to win"??? They would be more tenacious, but for him??????
How does this work, then? Jeffries has great skill really, and would display it all the btime, but instead makes at least 6 MAJOR ricks against HKR but it isn't his fault, as McNamara had somehow leeched the skill that would otherwise have made them all perfect moves out of him?
They get in front in games by a decent margin, eg CAs, but then at half time McNamara strangles this apparent will to win such that they come out strangled and will lose?
Sounds pretty barking to me, and that's regardless of what standard coach he is or isn't.
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| Quote ="Bulldozer"I voted no but it was a marginal decision.
I don't know enough about the workings of the club to know how "sustainable" the efforts of Hood et al are regarding ensuring the survival financially, but surely getting rid of the coach at this stage in a season that looks increasingly like it should be (on the field) written off would be financially damaging.'"
Whether McNamara leaves now or the end of the season the club would have to pay him off as his contract runs until the end of 2010. I'm not sure attendances wouldn't look very healthy if McNamara sees out his contract given the record so far. It depends on what projections Hood can make and whether the club can survive on lower crowds. Then again there may be a miracle and we'll transform into a top 5 club next year and all will be well. It's looking unlikely in my book.
Quote ="Bulldozer"Of course I'm also not privy to any moves regarding a viable replacement and whether they would have any cash to make the playing squad their own - I suspect not given what was reportedly said at the fans forum etc.'"
None of us have that kind of inside info but I hope the board is at least investigating possible options. Given that several high earners are leaving I'd suggest there is room for manouvre in the cap for any incoming coach but time is of the essence as deals are being done now.
Quote ="Bulldozer"What I'm trying to say is that although Plan A obviously hasn't worked this season, I'm not sure there is a Plan B (or whether we could finance one) and that worries me more.'"
I can see where you're coming from but what worries me is that we defer the decision until the end of next year and suffer another poor season that sees us finish lower in the table and lose more fans and have even less cash. When do you decide enough is enough? I know of a number of season ticket holders won't be renewing their deals while McNamara remains head coach. If you doubt we could finance a plan B now it may be even more dfifficult if present downward trends are allowed to continue.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What?
Mac [istrangles[/i their "skill"? He is strangling their "will to win"??? They would be more tenacious, but for him??????
How does this work, then? Jeffries has great skill really, and would display it all the btime, but instead makes at least 6 MAJOR ricks against HKR but it isn't his fault, as McNamara had somehow leeched the skill that would otherwise have made them all perfect moves out of him?
They get in front in games by a decent margin, eg CAs, but then at half time McNamara strangles this apparent will to win such that they come out strangled and will lose?
Sounds pretty barking to me, and that's regardless of what standard coach he is or isn't.'"
OK then clever ar$e, let's say instead that the players aren't trying and are playing to get the coach the sack. Is that what you'd rather believe?
Or could it just be that some of the squad were more than reasonable players at their previous clubs but are all of a sudden going backwards, downhill with the wind behind them? You mention Jeffries, he's a prime example.
Or maybe some other squad members were no more than slightly above average at their previous clubs, but with some expert coaching could improve sufficiently enough to be considered first team picks? Remember how good we were at that a few years ago?
I don't know if Bradford are any different to any other SL team, but does the coach have a week to work on problems? Does he have his assistants to provide another angle? Do his training drills ever change? Does he ever take his players to one side and say "[iThis is where you're going wrong, let's try something different[/i"?
I seriously don't believe he does. Of course the players aren't completely blame-free, but this clueless goon has had them doing the same thing almost week in, week out for 2 and a bit years.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"
I seriously don't believe he does. Of course the players aren't completely blame-free, but this clueless goon has had them doing the same thing almost week in, week out for 2 and a bit years.'"
* wonders whether the same condemnation will be handed out *
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"* wonders whether the same condemnation will be handed out *'"
I'll be condemned all i like, i know a clueless goon when i see one. I've supported Hull City for 27 years!
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"I'll be condemned all i like, i know a clueless goon when i see one. I've supported Hull City for 27 years!'"
I don't mind. I just find it odd that I get jumped on when I say exactly the same.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I don't mind. I just find it odd that I get jumped on when I say exactly the same.
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They can't handle the truth!
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| Not yet. Please delay it one week.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I don't mind. I just find it odd that I get jumped on when I say exactly the same.
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You made the mistake of doing it while I was up and about. Cheers for effectively filling in for me here though.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I don't mind. I just find it odd that I get jumped on when I say exactly the same.
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Can you pack in this hurt, indignant victim act now? It hasn't got a bite for weeks, no-one cares.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can you pack in this hurt, indignant victim act now? It hasn't got a bite for weeks, no-one cares.'"
What act is that?
I was merely pointing out a blatant case of two-facedness that is in evidence on here.
Still, I guess I should be honoured that my words seem to hit more than others eh?
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"OK then clever ar$e, let's say instead that the players aren't trying and are playing to get the coach the sack. Is that what you'd rather believe?'"
Well, "clever ar$e,", we know that on several occasions some of the players "aren't trying" as much as they should. How do we know this? Because other of the players have gone public and said so. Not that they needed to - we all have eyes - but when players state this as a fact, it sort of eliminates the need to be a "clever ar$e".
Moving on to whether they are doing this "to get the coach the sack", is a weird theory and you're the first exponent I've come across. So no, that isn't what I either believe, or would rather believe, for the record it sounds like a completely barking theory to me.
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What act is that?'"
The "Oooooooh, if [iI[/i said that, you'd all shout at me" act.
Quote ="mystic eddie"Still, I guess I should be honoured that my words seem to hit more than others eh?'"
You should if they did, but they don't, so you aren't.
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| Both macca and Hood need to go we need a chairman who is willing to invest alot of money in to this club
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| Quote ="jsb1990"Both macca and Hood need to go we need a chairman who is willing to invest alot of money in to this club'"
And when you land back on Planet Earth do pop by for another chat.
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| Quote ="jsb1990"Both macca and Hood need to go we need a chairman who is willing to invest alot of money in to this club'"
Given Bradford's unique population profile, wouldn't some Sheikh from Abu Dhabi be interested?
They've got some brass and there's a surfeit of places for 'em to eat.
Bradford Bactrians. Has a ring to it.
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| Of course his time is up. his time was up 2 years ago though and the club will continue to do absolutely nothing about it.
anything below 6th for this club is unacceptable, and thats pushing it. we are 12th, an absolute laughing stock, and Steve McNamara is to blame, because he doesn't have a bloody clue how to coach a Super League team, nevermind one as big as Bradford with such history and expectation.
We have done nothing but go backwards at an alarming rate ever since he got the job after Nobby was hounded out, and this is the price we are paying for it. dwindling crowds, a no hoper coach, with several below required standard players, a few of which are way over the hill, and wouldn't get in any other SL first team.
I don't want to say debacle but..
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| Quote ="RTB"...
We have done nothing but go backwards at an alarming rate ever since he got the job after Nobby was hounded out, ...'"
You're obviosuly upset but your rant is untrue.
What you are trying to do is to change history, everyone is upset at what has gone on this season so far, and we were not that much better than mid-table last year but finished 5th which is 3 places higher than the Warrington team being held up as a shining example of coaching currently occupy.
But before that, in 2006 we were 3rd or 4th when Noble left and stayed 4th all season. That after the loss of our "star" prop Fielden and our coach. In 2007 we started off well, and spent over the final half of the season in 3rd place, where we finished.
Now we're talking broad brush here, but how can any reasonable person call those years "going backwards at an alarming rate"? Seriously? I mean, try and be objective even if you can't be fair.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You're obviosuly upset but your rant is untrue.
What you are trying to do is to change history, everyone is upset at what has gone on this season so far, and we were not that much better than mid-table last year but finished 5th which is 3 places higher than the Warrington team being held up as a shining example of coaching currently occupy.
But before that, in 2006 we were 3rd or 4th when Noble left and stayed 4th all season. That after the loss of our "star" prop Fielden and our coach. In 2007 we started off well, and spent over the final half of the season in 3rd place, where we finished.
Now we're talking broad brush here, but how can any reasonable person call those years "going backwards at an alarming rate"? Seriously? I mean, try and be objective even if you can't be fair.'"
Think you're being a bit childish. It didn't seem anymore of a rant than some of you opinions.
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| In Macca 3 full seasons in charge, where he has made his signings we have gone backwards at an alarming rate.
07 - 3rd
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09 - 12th - ?
Yes, that is indeed an alarming rate.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I said No as we could mathematically make the playoffs. The point at which it is mathematically impossible for us to make the play offs his time will be up for me. I hope it's not this season but the bulls making playoffs this season looks about as likely as Jordan and Peter Andre getting divorced in a civilised and dignified private hearing.'"
Cant really agree with that logic. A few years back when it was still mathematicaly possible for us to stay up the chairman sacked the manager and appointed king kear - we won four of our last six including an away win at your place (in the days when you were decent) and we stayed up. If the chairman didnt act when he did we would have just continued being garbage and gone down.
Interesting that you mentioned Jordan in your post though - maybe macca will try to sign her - he did sign Sykes and Sherriffe who are without doubt the biggestTITS in Super League
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