He made some pretty bewildering decisions it is true.

A well reasoned response from a respected poster.

I object to that. I hope the mods take the same view. Are you [ialways[/i looking to start a fight? What is your problem? Can't we, or I, talk about a game (which I saw, and you didn't)?

Yup. That's precisely how it looked to me too.

.. and another thread turns into FA and ME coming closer to a divorce.

My take on the game;

1) Deacon is poor - we seriously need a quality half back.
2) Our goal line defense was abysmal.
3) We seem to make the simplest of mistakes and it's becoming a joke.

It's okay that some of you are blaming the ref, but we need to see why we're playing so poorly before blaming others.

I don't think any one would disagree with that. The thing is that we've had to many days like it this season which isn't good enough.

Hands up those who KNEW we wouldn't concentrate from the final kick-off. I bet as much with the bloke who sits next to me. Or would have except he wouldn't bet.

I said to cousin during the kick off that

a) We'd take it and knock on
b) It'd bounce and go out
c) Some other mistake.

Unfortunately, it's got to the stage where we now expect it to happen.

Today it was. At Murrayfield it was awesome. Discuss.

Do you know what pi$$ed me off? How long Celtic take to kick goals and set up scrums, i've heard of time-wasting but that's taking the . The ref should have clamped down on it.

I object to that too. I'm not taking any part in it, and haven't said a word.


1) He was certainly rubbish today. Can we afford to put him on the field never knowing if he's going to play or not? At the moment I'd say no. Ha she gone as a SL player? I am beginning to wonder.
2) Yes. Not for the first time. But not so bad in the first half.
3) Absolutely, as we keep saying, the amount of ball and territory that we can pi55 away when in the mood to do so is dispiriting.

My hand is up.
I thought it would be a knock on though, so they did surprise me on that score.

Umm Celtic 0 - Saints 4 When were they leading??

Platt didn't make any terrible mistakes today, but his defence was shocking. He needs to be dropped to reserves for a lengthy period. Halley had to come to the rescue several times as everybody else just couldn't be bothered.

I also said to the GF that we'd knock on from the kick off. I wasn't too far wrong. We're are at least consistent at some things..

Halley didn't impress me today. But then noone really did.

Apart from the Worrlord of course.

Is that the same Dave Halley who made the huge boob for Celtic's first try and was continually poorly positioned in the second half.

I didn't think Terry had the best of games today, some of the ball coming out of acting half was too slow, loopy and behind the first receiver slowing down an already slow player. And the penalty he gave away at the end was criminal - wasted time and gave them field position for the last try. Now I like Terry as a player but today was not good for him.

Losing Taduala was a blow as they switched Menzies to cover and as he showed when he scored he's a lot more effective on the right plus Taduala's work rate was missed

I'm not sure what's going on with Langley - he seems to slow everything down. And for a defensive orientated player he seems to miss a lot of tackles or maybe its just they are more noticeable misses?

If Nero comes back we can go back to Jeffries with Sykes/menzies and get back to winning ways soon. Had more fun watching the bull tag - who on here was playing again?
Could add more but got fed up with typing anyway at least there's some good telly on tonight

Trying to look at it from another angle, what did people make of Celtic's performance today? I thought they had the look of a strong mid-table side, not too much class but some big lads and very industrious. They didn't look like obviously the bottom club?

They didn't make many mistakes.
Keep hold of the ball and you have got more chance of scoring apparently.
Maybe we should try it...

Did the basics right, showed up and got the rub of the green

Still bigger than yours though

The half backs were AWOL all game.
Our kicking in general play was abysmal.
Kick offs were too easy for Celtic to handle and had no variety.
Too many player made hundreds of yards sideways and very little ground forwards.
Too many forwards took the ball from a standing start.
Er ........... that's it.

Oh, I did wonder that why should I bother going to the match if the people that get paid to go can't show more enthusiasm. Methinks there is some serious problem off field. Anyone know what it is. PM me if it can't be posted.

I can see we're going to have some fun with this one