Double post, sorry!

Taken from the tweet at the top of the page from Marc Green:

"To those concerned about wasting money in fight against points deduction, I thank you, however, in reality, principles cost, simple as that.
I was always taught to fight for what I believe to be right, provided it is & in the fullness of time, this will be proven to be the case."

IF come the time of getting to the high court or before, if it becomes mathematically impossible for the bulls to stay up - 6 points returned or not - will these morals be reversed or forgotten about or do you think that he fully intends to go through with the case and get his day(s) in court?

They are admirably strong and passionate words, but if he chucks it in before his big day, his mral value's would be called into question?

Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms

Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Dont quite get this bit, i read the articles and could see no mention of either.

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Dont quite get this bit, i read the articles and could see no mention of either.

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Why has Dr K got nothing to lose?, relegation is still a possibility for Salford at this point in time.

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Why has Dr K got nothing to lose?, relegation is still a possibility for Salford at this point in time.

"hampering" WTW recruitment plans according to James Webster:- www.totalrl.com/bradford-decisio ... cats-coach

"hampering" WTW recruitment plans according to James Webster:- www.totalrl.com/bradford-decisio ... cats-coach

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 ...'" I don't find it that interesting, it seems confused and contradictory. Quote A sports law expert says Bradford are unlikely to succeed in their High-Court attempt to overturn their points deduction.'" Well, quite. As we aren't trying to do that. As the guy himself sort of concededs later on! Quote The relegation-threatened Super League club have already lost an appeal against the decision of the Rugby Football League to dock them six points for going into administration earlier this year'" No, we haven't lost an appeal. It wasn't heard. We weren't allowed to have an appeal. Quote "Bradford Bulls' decision to challenge in the High Court the six-point Super League deduction raises key issues over the accountability of sports bodies through the courts," Boyes said.'" Well, it would, Mr. Boyes, if we had done any such thing but, er, we haven't. We just want a chance to argue our case before an independent panel, which has so far been denied us. Quote While the Bulls and their fans might be hopeful that the penalty will be overturned, '" How "might" we be, when we all know that isn't what the High Court is being asked to do? Quote Boyes says, even if the court rules in favour of the Bulls, it is likely to order a new hearing rather than overturn the points deduction. "One further possibility is that a decision may have been made through an unfair or faulty process and be struck down by a court," he added. "However, even were this to be the case, this only requires that the matter be heard again, using a lawful process, rather than striking the decision down forever.'" So he does understand it, then - which begs the question: why all the earlier superfluous nonsense?

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 ...'" I don't find it that interesting, it seems confused and contradictory. Quote A sports law expert says Bradford are unlikely to succeed in their High-Court attempt to overturn their points deduction.'" Well, quite. As we aren't trying to do that. As the guy himself sort of concededs later on! Quote The relegation-threatened Super League club have already lost an appeal against the decision of the Rugby Football League to dock them six points for going into administration earlier this year'" No, we haven't lost an appeal. It wasn't heard. We weren't allowed to have an appeal. Quote "Bradford Bulls' decision to challenge in the High Court the six-point Super League deduction raises key issues over the accountability of sports bodies through the courts," Boyes said.'" Well, it would, Mr. Boyes, if we had done any such thing but, er, we haven't. We just want a chance to argue our case before an independent panel, which has so far been denied us. Quote While the Bulls and their fans might be hopeful that the penalty will be overturned, '" How "might" we be, when we all know that isn't what the High Court is being asked to do? Quote Boyes says, even if the court rules in favour of the Bulls, it is likely to order a new hearing rather than overturn the points deduction. "One further possibility is that a decision may have been made through an unfair or faulty process and be struck down by a court," he added. "However, even were this to be the case, this only requires that the matter be heard again, using a lawful process, rather than striking the decision down forever.'" So he does understand it, then - which begs the question: why all the earlier superfluous nonsense?

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Cant see anything in report about Wakefield chairman. Another cheap, below the belt, shot. Bless .....

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" Cant see anything in report about Wakefield chairman. Another cheap, below the belt, shot. Bless .....

Quote ="Tigerade""hampering" WTW recruitment plans according to James Webster:- www.totalrl.com/bradford-decisio ... cats-coach'" Well yeah, if we aren't nailed on for relegation how are Wakefield going to poach our players?

Quote ="Tigerade""hampering" WTW recruitment plans according to James Webster:- www.totalrl.com/bradford-decisio ... cats-coach'" Well yeah, if we aren't nailed on for relegation how are Wakefield going to poach our players?

He is a bit of a whiner isn't he? Carter?
Get a grip man.

agreed FA and this bit shows he hasn't even read up on it without making a statement: [ia court is unlikely to interfere, usually taking the view that the specialist body is in a much stronger position to make an appropriate decision based on its expert knowledge of the sport.[/i but its an expert knowledge of insolvency that is required. As hes a lecturer hes probably down on his publications target for this year, and this is a quick one to sneak in before the end of the academic year.

Bulls are down, theyre already 10 points adrift of Wakefield and would need to turn around a huge points difference to get above us so in reality they need 5 wins and a draw and thats relying on Wakefield not picking up another point in the remaining games.

Then theres Salford who at this point in time are below Wakefield but still 9 points ahead of Bradford.

No need for the Wakefield or Salford Chairman to get nervous!

Perhaps this is not just about the points, perhaps it's about a point of truth and fairness in what has gone on in recent times. The game has to move forward in the right way with transparency and honesty at all times. If this is not happening the sport a whole will suffer.

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" In fairness, despite being contacted by numerous reporters, I don't think I've expressed any opinion, never mind a worried one??

Quote ="Blotto"Interesting Legal summation of the Bulls court challenge sport.bt.com/moresporthub/moresp ... 3915044491 I notice Wakey's Chairman starting to get worried about it, unlike Dr K who has the opposite view but then he's got nothing to lose in real terms'" In fairness, despite being contacted by numerous reporters, I don't think I've expressed any opinion, never mind a worried one??

Fellow Bulls fans. As I understand it, this chap is the one and only Carter the unstoppable sex machine. Welcome old bean.

I wouldn't be worried either.....

Don't suppose you fancy a new half back do you?

No we've had "Webster hits out" headlines but not seen a "carter turns rabid" one.

I think in fairness to James he was doing a press conference when the news broke, and he was hit with a question instantly.
Whereas I could say no comment from behind my phone. I did question why they weren't asking Marwan instead?
I think this whole bulls/ Wakefield thing has gone totally over the top. I do still believe there should be some penalty for an act of administration. I do respect however, that not everyone will agree with that.

I find the whole idea of punishing an entirely new regime to be slightly counterproductive, but, of course, if there is no punishment, we'll see plenty of administrations as a way of cheating (much like happened at Leeds United).

It's not even the lack of consistency that I find worrying (the fact that Wakefield and Crusaders only got four points and weren't 'fined' a season's worth of money) but the lack of transparency.

Any headlines coming from the camp of your nearest rivals Salford?.

Is all this not just a cynical exercise to force a moratorium on promotion/ relegation?

Why is there no official word on what our case actually is (other than "we think we have a good case"icon_wink.gif. All the secrecy and rumours are very damaging to the Bulls and the game.

What a breath of fresh air it would be for a statement to be issued detailing our position so the world can judge whether any of this is actually in the interests of improving the club on the field which is really all that counts for the future.

The only headline I have mentioned is the one that appeared in my twitter feed titled "Webster hits out.." to which your mr c has contextualised. I haven't seen any other headlines but if you have a point to make please spit it out.

That's fair enough. He's not paid to pontificate on this sort of thing whereas, with respect, being gobby is part of your / marwan / hudgells job.

Well there you go then, had I known it appeared in your twitter feed account I might have posted something different, as things stand atm Salford are your nearest rivals in the league yet you find time to post about What the Wakefield coach is saying and not the Salford coach, surely one could be forgiven for thinking you are a tad obsessed by Wakefield. HTH

To be fair I think 99% of bulls Wakey fans get on fine.
Just one or two on forums don't see eye to eye