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| Why not?
Two years into a three year contract and maybe something has changed?
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_4345002,00.html
Won't happen.'"
if rumours re: orford are true then its now apparently fair game to approach a contracted player and offer him a deal. All said player has to do is tell his club he wants out and his contract is worthless and club have no option but to release him. or at least that seems to be common opinion on here.
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| Quote ="mat"if rumours re: orford are true then its now apparently fair game to approach a contracted player and offer him a deal. All said player has to do is tell his club he wants out and his contract is worthless and club have no option but to release him. or at least that seems to be common opinion on here.
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The simple fact is, agents and clubs approach each other repeatedly, on or off contract. That he has one year left is really immaterial. Nor can I see a French born player living in the South of France, wanting to upsticks and move to South Bradford particularly given he wouldn't be joining an at present, top club.
I'm sure there are other more realistic options for 7 around.
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| I would love us to sign Bosc, add Elima and a decent centre, Langley resigned and we are looking stronger for next year.
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| Quote ="chpntpsr"I would love us to sign Bosc, add Elima and a decent centre, Langley resigned and we are looking stronger for next year.'"
i severley doubt we are gettin a new 6
we have given sykes a new 3 YEAR DEAL ( god help us ) obviously to play 6 because he is better in that position
worst week in bradford bulls history : matt orford is out for the season and paul sykes has agreed to stay at odsal for 3 more years
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"i severley doubt we are gettin a new 6
we have given sykes a new 3 YEAR DEAL ( god help us ) obviously to play 6 because he is better in that position
worst week in bradford bulls history : matt orford is out for the season and paul sykes has agreed to stay at odsal for 3 more years'"
I think, taking a long term view, that Sykes is a better player than he has been this year, though three years may be a bit long, there again we don't know the terms and, as a utility back with no regular position, I wouldn't think he'll be on a massive contract. I disagree that 6 is his best position btw, I'd go for full back. which leaves us (arguably) with Sykes, Kearney, Reardon, and Halley who could all claim full back to be their best spot.
From the list I'd go for Kearney as our best no.1, though he's probably our best 6 too, which clouds the water a bit. Let's hope things become clearer when the recruiting is done.
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| The question really is, where does Potter see Kearney regularly playing. Until you know that, it's hard to decide.
Reardon has been a huge disappointment for me, but the when we signed him I assumed it was to play FB and he shouldn't be as crap as he is on the wing, but I wouldn't expect him to crack any pots out there either. WHo knows - maybe at FB he might have had a much better season.
If Kearney is going to be 6 (and I think he should be FB as that is where he poses the most attacking threat for mine) then Halley has had a poor effort overall at FB and has been regularly trampled; Reardon and Sykes would therefore have to fight it out. Sykes can also play centre though his defence at centre can be very dodgy.
If kearney is at FB then we simply have to get a 6, but first we need to know if we have got a 7. Another season with makeshift stand-offs like Sykes, or even Menzies being wasted there, is just simply not what we need.
So the starting point is, who will Potter have playing 6 and 7. Until we know that, you can perm any 5 from 12, but not in a good way.
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| After today, i'm back to questioning Sykes' 3 year deal.
Where is he going to play? Reardon & Kearney are both better full-backs, Sykes isn't a good enough passer to be a permanent 6 and his defence is too suspect at centre.
Re Kearney - It would be daft not to use him at full-back, whilst he can do a good job at 6, there's no doubt full-back is his best position. He's class there, always dangerous and one of the best in the competition.
I have no idea how Potter is thinking, but imo (if Orford is coming back) we need a stand-off, winger, centre, prop in that order. But that would leave Sykes as cover.
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| Sykes is getting an unfair rap. He has at least put his hand up to cover at 6. I'm sure he wouldn't claim to be any sort of a great stand-off but someone has to do it, and it's not his fault that it's him. As a versatile back, signing him is a logical move, but he is suffering from trying to be our creative player when really that isn't his game.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sykes is getting an unfair rap. He has at least put his hand up to cover at 6. I'm sure he wouldn't claim to be any sort of a great stand-off but someone has to do it, and it's not his fault that it's him. As a versatile back, signing him is a logical move, but he is suffering from trying to be our creative player when really that isn't his game.'"
But he's equally as terrible at centre!
The new contract just baffles me every time I think about it.
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| Im starting to worry that we have offered langley and menzies contracts for next season but they are waiting to see if anyone else wants them
Many teams would snap up langley and some may take a punt at menzies
we need them to put pen to paper soon
the funny thing is that skykes has been given such a long contract...is he 29 this year ?.....running him through to 32 is not a good idead as he has not been a good player all his career....the likes of orford we can offer long term deals because they are good players but sykes is average and after today i am too questioning the new deal as is ewwenorfolk
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"As a versatile back, signing him is a logical move, but he is suffering from trying to be our creative player when really that isn't his game.'"
We have played 2 back rowers in the halves too - and both have done just as well as Sykes. Sykes has had a lot of games at 6 (this season and last) to get used to the position, but he still isn't there. Next to Orford he looked okay, but now he looks lost.
Unfortunately i'm not convinced by him at Centre either.
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| Sykes is a trier but he's not suited to stand off. I see him as a centre really, defensive problems and all.
All this means we need Orford to come back (or sign a replacement), we need to see more of Southernwood and we need to sign another stand off as cover. At the very least. If we go into 2011 with only one halfback again then we're asking for trouble.
The way Langley defended in the first 10mins today he can go! He made up for it later but as a senior player he just has to do better.
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| Quote ="bull at work"Would'nt want to lose Scruton'"
Can`t see that happening he struugle to get game time there so why would he go back ?
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| So as it stands at the moment if rumours are true of signings for next season we have signed:
Will Sharp
Chev Walker
Paleassina
Oliver Elima
Leon Pryce ( cant help but think thats rubbish)
all good players in my opinion.
the players id let go would be. Sheriffe, Worrincy, crossley, sculthorpe, sykes.
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| I see Kearney long-term at 6, if our 7 next season was to get injured again then BK is a far better option to have there than Sykes.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Platt at full-back, does anyone else think this is a viable option? He seems to have progressed a great deal this year, and his heart and work-rate can never be questioned. He doesn't have the skill to play centre IMO, doesn't give his winger enough service.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I see Kearney long-term at 6, if our 7 next season was to get injured again then BK is a far better option to have there than Sykes.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Platt at full-back, does anyone else think this is a viable option? He seems to have progressed a great deal this year, and his heart and work-rate can never be questioned. He doesn't have the skill to play centre IMO, doesn't give his winger enough service.'"
Not on his own there. The best centre at the club is Menzies and he, imo, is the only one who does give decent service to his winger. As for Platty, he's playing with more confidence where he is. To be honest, I can't see any advantage in making him re-visit his nightmares.
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| Yep. Platt is more suited to centre where his brain explosions have been kept to a minimum. At fullback he's more exposed.
I see Platt as cover for centre with ideally Menzies and a new signing as starting centres. Platt, Sykes, Wardle and Crookes can cover for these positions and wing/fullback too in some cases.
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| Rather than moving Platt to fullback, I'd be more tempted to move Sykes there. He can still join in with attacking moves from fullback and it means he's not as heavily involved as he is in the halves where he seems out of his depth.
His one-on-one tackling has improved a lot this year, so I don't think his defence would be too much of an issue. I think fullback might be Sykes' best position and I'd rather him there and Kearney in the halves than the other way around.
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| sykes at FB may not be a bad move buit what about kearney ?
he is wasted at 6 although he does an ok job he is far far better and dangerous at FB
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| Is there any truth in the rumours that Bullman has returned to a more lucrative contract fighting in Spain and will not be returning. At first I thought he had a minor injury but as time as gone on his absence is becoming more alarming. Is there any truth in the rumour about the rift between him and Bullboy?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk" Next to Orford he looked okay, but now he looks lost. '"
Mmmmm.....extremely average half back looking good next to a class partner, looks lost when class act is no longer there........
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| Just posted this elsewhere. Meli may be coming with Potter next year. How would you feel about that? Back to the powerhouse winger days - but not quite in the same league sadly!
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| Quote ="Steve-O"Just posted this elsewhere. Meli may be coming with Potter next year. How would you feel about that? Back to the powerhouse winger days - but not quite in the same league sadly!'"
Hope so but i hear Hull FC are also in the chase for Meli..
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