without proof and/or a conviction you are on dodgy ground there

I read it as supplying tries.........

Henry Fa'afili was top scorer in the league when Gleeson played for us so that's the proof.

He was pretty good at avoiding getting caught in possession and offloading the goods before he got brought down.

It feels like a role reversal, this is the position we were in a few years back. I remember us taking a risk on Chris Bridge and being assured by Bradford fans that he was a troublemaker and would come with baggage.

Released,a shame a player of his talent has seemed to have ended on a downer.
Must be a reason Hull has let him go.

Think the writing was on the wall as soon as the Pikey left you.

Bridge always knew his way to the line though.

You could be half right,but a wasted talent all the same.

wouldn't go near Gleeson. Always thought he was over-rated. Never mind his bad attitiude. How many chances has he had???

Was once a clasy player but when he appeared for Hull that one or two times looked fat to be honest so with nearly a whole year out of the game and major personal issues hanging over him Idoubt anyone serious will go near him.

So odds on he'll sign for bradford. (comedy drum roll)

He's a great player no doubt. Would be a great test for MP's man management skills. I agree that him and new winger (Goulding, Pryce etc) would be imposing.

No thanks, I thought Hull were taking a big gamble and it didn't work out for them. The guy obviously has some problems that he needs to overcome and I don't think we're in a position to be carrying a passenger.

Please god no

No way Pedro, unless he can be converted into a World-class prop.

He would be worth the gamble on some sort of pay as you play deal because the guy is class, but is his head in the right place.

agree with that on a play as you play deal yes i would take him he is quality and obviously better than what we currently have!

Its not that simple. You'd have to assign him a salary cap value, regardless of how many games he actually played. And, for a number of reasons, I really really doubt the club would want to risk signing someone who could cause significant issues off the park, on a number of levels. Last thing we want is the club getting a reputation as a last chance saloon for players with issues. Leave that to Wakey...

Although John Kear also had a reputation for getting the best out of players on their last chances....

Who brought Batley into the argument?

I'm guessing you didn't see Paul Cooke in 2010?

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Different issues, not directly affecting the club or its personnel and certainly not health issues.

Not the same at all to be fair. Bridge, despite the problems, was a young player with all his potential still to come whilst Gleeson's best days are long gone, imo. For sure, you can both win and lose these kind of deals but Gleeson's best days were at Saints and with his early Wire form........it's a long time ago and not worth the risk. In any case the threequarters are sorted for next year......hopefully!

Totally agree Adey.

It seems we've scraped a decent 'pledge' total this time round, at least better than many expected, but the club could be in the last chance saloon with that if there isn't more consistency in the coming year. Put simply, I just don't think the club can risk another year like the last, and avoiding outside bets like this one seems a reasonable way to go in that regard.

That's not what you said. You said "..a last chance saloon for players with issues." Which describes Raynor to a tee, I would wager when the real reasons for his departure come clear it will reinforce this. If it's health issues specifically, you took a massive gamble on Sculthorpe, which backfired.