The "house"? Your blue-rinse neighbours will be MOST put-out with you, and will point out that in Ilkley one posesses a "mansion", and a "cottage" that the estate manager is permitted to occupy. And maybe a kennel or two for the other staff (the butler lives in a pantry, of course). Unless of course by "the House" you are referring to e.g "Tot House", or to a mini-palace that is referred to locally as "The House", in which case then OK you may escape admonishment.

Regarding "Tories", I suspect most members of the Ilkley Con Club would be entirely at ease with you stoning most "Tory" members of the present "government" since they would profess them to all be plastic pinko liberals anyway...? Could we pay extra to buy a bucket of slightly smaller rocks for the investment bankers? So we get a good few days' entertainment out of each?

Some of us don't need to inflate our balls.

But i'll acknowledge the typo. it was obviously meant to be 1917 not 1197.

Some good ideas here, like the food festival idea. Think a 'Bradford Bulls Curry Festival' could be a good shout, hopefully begin some relationships between the club and the asian community of the city and judging by the 1,088 posts on the RAB Curry Guide thread I think there would be a fair bit of interest.

Perhaps something that could be staged in the summer.. sunshine, curry stalls, the bulls whats not to like?

There needs to be a permanent curry stall or two there. A link up with Aagrah or Mumtaz. Chapatti instead of rice( can't reheat rice) and three curries- meat , chicken & veg. Keep it simple but tasty.

I can't understand why we don't have curry stands all over the stadium, does anyone else know?

I think they gave the contract for food in the stadium to one firm that sun contracts to the rat burger vans etc. Not sure of the economics or it.

I'd love there to be a curry stall in the stadium, the food has been pretty grim for years and I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, the chippy at Odsal top is much better.

Seconded.

Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/

Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/

“It’s a highly developable part of the city with great links to the motorway, as we know."
hmm wonder who would benefit if we were forced into a move. Let make a list shall we.

The RFL
Bradford Council
Bradford City

notice anyone missing?

Quote ="Blotto"Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/'" wow, thats a new thought. Why has no-one suggested that one before? It would never keep a thread going though! Maybe this MP has a magical solution to our and the RFL's legal and financial responsibilties to the Odsal lease? Can't remember how much but it costs a fair bit to quit Odsal I seem to remember. Although, assuming those fees disappear, even if its no-ones first choice if it was administration/liquidation or move to VP for a viable future would we need to accept it?

Quote ="Blotto"Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/'" wow, thats a new thought. Why has no-one suggested that one before? It would never keep a thread going though! Maybe this MP has a magical solution to our and the RFL's legal and financial responsibilties to the Odsal lease? Can't remember how much but it costs a fair bit to quit Odsal I seem to remember. Although, assuming those fees disappear, even if its no-ones first choice if it was administration/liquidation or move to VP for a viable future would we need to accept it?

It'd could cost us millions to leave Odsal before 2019. Obviously this minor issue slipped Ward's mind. Unless he's proposing the Council try to persuade the RFL to give up their leasehold so Odsal can be sold then the Bulls can be forced into VP, great deal for us I don't think!

Its unusual for an MP to wade into an issue without understanding the detail.

Attention-seeking otherwise-invisible politician in "jumping on bandwagon if can sense any political advantage" shocker.

I believe City pay Gibbs flamingo land pension pot (aka Valley Parade) an astonishing £700k per annum..... Does anyone know what the Bulls pay the RFL?

I wish Mr Ward would look after his consituent town, its a freaking dump full of unemployed/unemployable chavs walking the streets.....

Bullfighting !!! I'd pay a quid to watch that.

Poor deal that. The RFL give us 700k.

Just go to the EGM...

What stops Gibbs putting the rent up if there are two teams at vally pararde. he will think its Christimas come early

Thats the bit that always makes me laugh whenever this subject comes up. City fans think if we groundshare it will reduce their rent. All that will happen is that we will pay the same rent that city do and pension fund will get more income. obviously some local elections coming up and a to be jumped on.

Wouldn't we sub-let from Bradford City? Otherwise it'd be like renting a house and the landlord turning up with a new family and saying he's let a bedroom, use of the bathroom and kitchen to them.

AFAIK city only rent ground on matchdays. If they stage extra events that involve opening the stadium they have to pay extra rent.

Other problem for me with a move to VP is lack of terracing. My personal preference is to stand at rugby matches. we have 5k seats at odsal which are never even close to full. Vast majority also choose to stand and given cheaper prices last year it doesnt seem to be cost related. While they might be able to accomodate a small terraced section at VP (if footbal league relax regulations, which is unlikely), they certainly wouldnt be able to accomodate the 7k+ who choose to stand at odsal.

IF the RFL are now paying the maintenance costs at Odsal, and this has never been clarified but seems likely, then I dont see the advantage of paying a commercial rent at VP as opposed to a commercial rent at Odsal. fFans voted with their feet last time we went down there and they'd do the same again.

Bit of kite flying to garner votes in lead up to local elections by Mr Ward IMO.

Given that the pitch is too short at Valley Parade and last time we were there it was given a dispensation on the ground of being a temporary situation some of the front row seats at each end would have to be removed to create the required space. If they're having to modify the ends of the stadium they could put terracing in if it wasn't in direct contradiction to City's requirement if they have any ambition of playing in the top 2 flights. So no terracing and the stadium would need modifying anyway and can you guess who'd bear the cost of that?

Fans voted with their feet whilst we had possibly the most talented and successful team in a generation playing at VP. What would it have been like had we had the performances of the last few seasons?



And I agree with the kite flying, I suspect we won't have any more input from politicians once the local elections are out of the way.

Ward is getting invloved in trying to make the people of Bradford realise the lib dems still exist. FWIW I admire ward. He's a local bloke whose not afraid to stand up against the party line and do what he thinks is right for his constituents. remember, He was voted in to the constituency where he was a local councillor. The electorate knew what they were getting and they still wanted him. NOt like Galloway who promised the earth to a largely igonored and disillusioned electorate.

I am sick of seeing City and BUlls fans slagging each others stadium off. Simply put, there are advantages and disadvantages to both, and some genuine points in and amongst some absolute garbage, some of which has already crept into this thread! I am a season ticket holder at both, and I value the heritage and attachments that each club has. But at the moment the stadia the clubs play in are crippling them both financially!

To get both playing at one stadium as equal tennants would be the best course of action for both! Long term, I see no other alternative!

The case for both at VP:

A more modern stadium with better facilities in the ground. for everyday fans and corporates.
All under cover
All seater so never have to worry about license ever again.
modern, so much cheaper to maintain.
closer to the action
Good public transport (inc rail) links
Ample on and off street parking.

Case against VP:

Pitch too small so would need work doing.
In wrong part of City as most Bulls fans are from South Bradford. Perceived high crime rate ( although I work in the area, and go into manningham 3/4 times a week for city/socialising and my car hasnt been stolen or vandalised when Ive parked sensibly)
Not our own ground with our own history
Further from my house

Case for Odsal:

Our home
Unique bowl venue
Good bus links
Good on and off street parking
Terracing
Straight off motorway
nearer to my house


Case against odsal (from a rl and soccer POV)

too far from action
terracing
Expensive to run
lack of rail links without buses
Not enough seats for football
no roof


you could add more to each list.

Quote ="Blotto"Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/'" I don't know the bloke from Adam, but I can't fault one word in what he is reported as saying. Your alternative solution?

Quote ="Blotto"Save us from MP's with so called solutions www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... __says_MP/'" I don't know the bloke from Adam, but I can't fault one word in what he is reported as saying. Your alternative solution?