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| Quote ="Adeybull"You think we don't all know that? You think we haven't been exhausting all the permutations on here these last few weeks? You think we don't already fully understand its totally out of our hands even if we win our last two? You think we don't already know the long odds on us making it (hell, af has even calculated the odds using some logic that escapes most on here!
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Read back on various threads and you will see no-one is under any illusions. Most in fact have already written our chances off. The only reason folk are still even admitting the faint possibility is that all the other results over the last two rounds (bar one, I think) went in our favour. Whether that can continue for another two weeks requires some continuing extreme good fortune. Sorry.'"
Not forgetting that we`re as entitled as any to have a laugh and enjoy the last couple of weeks, despite knowing the inevitable. Actually I still do believe in Santa......Come On You Bulls!!
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| It would be good
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| Quote ="freddies wig"It would be good'"

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| Look seriously, have faith. We're going to make the playoffs, you'll see when we beat Salford this week. All will be confirmed the week after.
You all think I'm mad, but we shall see when it all turns out well, and we march to Old Trafford 
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Look seriously, have faith. We're going to make the playoffs, you'll see when we beat Salford this week. All will be confirmed the week after.
You all think I'm mad, but we shall see when it all turns out well, and we march to Old Trafford
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I agree
Keep the faith, at least till the seasons over.
COME ON YOU BULLS!
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| The season could finally be over before we even play on Sunday.
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| Quote ="redeverready"The season could finally be over before we even play on Sunday.'"
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| Quote ="redeverready"The season could finally be over before we even play on Sunday.'"
 If you didn't stand behind me at games, I may have been tempted to throw things at your head after that comment! 
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| I think Macca is doing a good job right now but really this is too little too late and if Hood had the cohones he'd make the change.
As I recall didn't he say a successful season was having a good run in the play-offs? I.e. not just making up the numbers?
If he doesn't want to sack his mate then he could always save face by moving him upstairs. Leeds did this and they won a GF the same year.
Even if Macca makes the play-offs he has to go because it will have been relying on the misfortune of other clubs rather than us making our own destiny. A good run in the play-offs would redeem things for me i.e beating our first opposition and valiantly losing the next game but I doubt this would happen.
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| Would anyone be happy if Noble came back under a sort of "Director of Coaching" title?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Would anyone be happy if Noble came back under a sort of "Director of Coaching" title?'" Nope clean slate for all the coaches please.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Would anyone be happy if Noble came back under a sort of "Director of Coaching" title?'"
Nope. I'd be happy if he came back as head coach though. Signing Jimmy won't make much difference, Macca will be still in charge.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Smith isn't, he's signed for 4 years with the Roosters. Wouldn't want Elliot back, he's nothing. He was the one that lived off of Smith's success.
Consequences? Nothing will happen, we'll get the 'we're dissapointed, but things just didn't go for us, but we've put together a good squad with a mixture of experience and youth for next season, and we're ready to challenge again' line and that will be all that will happen.'"
Success? Has he ever won anything?
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| Quote ="Don Brennans Leg"Success? Has he ever won anything?'"
He meant success in building a great team.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He meant success in building a great team.'"
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Would anyone be happy if Noble came back under a sort of "Director of Coaching" title?'"
Any change would need to be a clean break from our past. Pretty sure we dont want him back, I dont think we need him back, and I suspect he wouldn't want to come back either. So thats a No.
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| We need Wakefield to win at Catalan and if that happens then i think we'll make it but we won't make it to Old Trafford but you can all keep beleiving.
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| Quote ="Duckman"Any change would need to be a clean break from our past. Pretty sure we dont want him back, I dont think we need him back, and I suspect he wouldn't want to come back either. So thats a No.'"
Well he got Wigan out of the bottom of the table. They have had a good dig in the play-offs under his stewardship. I reckons he do better job than Macca tbh
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"Well he got Wigan out of the bottom of the table. '"
Yes he did, i'd suggest this was his highlight of his time at Wigan (excepting a certain playoff debarcle which was not so much his good coaching but our bad play and Trent Barrett) and it was aided by the lift that any new boss can bring and the signing Dobson and Fielden...did they not then break the cap that year as a direct result of the mid season signings?
Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"They have had a good dig in the play-offs under his stewardship. '"
Better than us certainly, which has not been too difficult to achieve, but still not close to winning anything. (but yes closer than us before anyone says it)
Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"I reckons he do better job than Macca tbh'"
Might do, might not, I think it might be a closer call than some think for 2010, (in regular season games since they both took charge its 52-49 in wins to Noble over McNamara BTW stat fans) but either way, with the position our club is in I do not think it would be a positive move, IMO of course.
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| Quote ="Duckman"Yes he did, i'd suggest this was his highlight of his time at Wigan (excepting a certain playoff debarcle which was not so much his good coaching but our bad play and Trent Barrett) and it was aided by the lift that any new boss can bring and the signing Dobson and Fielden...did they not then break the cap that year as a direct result of the mid season signings?
Better than us certainly, which has not been too difficult to achieve, but still not close to winning anything. (but yes closer than us before anyone says it)
Might do, might not, I think it might be a closer call than some think for 2010, (in regular season games since they both took charge its 52-49 in wins to Noble over McNamara BTW stat fans) but either way, with the position our club is in I do not think it would be a positive move, IMO of course.'" Thats not great on Maccas part seeing as our 06 and 07 squads were far better than Wigans.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Thats not great on Maccas part seeing as our 06 and 07 squads were far better than Wigans.'"
I wouldn't say the 07 or 08 squads were that far apart, only in 06 did we have a significantly better squad in my view, and this year wigans is turning out better (and that in itself is an argument against McNamara I realise because its his squad) and ours has been a squad in decline one way or the other since 05....but I get your point.
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| First result of the weekend goes our way.. as Hull can no longer mathematically make the playoffs.
Now we need Wakey to beat Catalan, KR to beat Warrington and Cas to beat Quins as Cas are pretty much guaranteed their spot as they won't lose to Celtic.
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| Wakey/Catalans is the major one. That HAS to be a Catalans win, or we've got no chance (since Celtic are not going to beat Cas).
Aside from that, one of Quins or Wire need to lose too, as they play each other next week.
If Quins and Wire both win, or if Catalans win, we're as good as out. If Cas win too, we ARE out.
If Cas lose, but Quins, Wire & Catalans all win, we ARE out.
I'm at Wembley tomorrow for the football, but I'll be keeping a very close eye on the RL scores!
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Wakey/Catalans is the major one. That HAS to be a Catalans win, or we've got no chance (since Celtic are not going to beat Cas).
Aside from that, one of Quins or Wire need to lose too, as they play each other next week.
If Quins and Wire both win, or if Catalans win, we're as good as out. If Cas win too, we ARE out.
If Cas lose, but Quins, Wire & Catalans all win, we ARE out.
I'm at Wembley tomorrow for the football, but I'll be keeping a very close eye on the RL scores!'" Don't you mean Wakefield win.
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