1999-2005 must have been prtetty disappointing for you then.

Well I've managed it for some decades, for one. Appreciate the good times much more than I suppose someone who hasn't.

My lad also has a philosophical outlook on life in general and sport in particular. I had that conversation, or on that subject, many times, and he learned from me that to lose with good grace is fine, winning isn't everything or even close, and that there are much more important things in life than winning, but very few more important than behaving like a true rugby league person.

You learn to appreciate the wins more when you've had some bad times. I couldn't help but think that a lot of Bulls fans had grown complacent on the success of the side 96-05. A few years in the doldrums will make us value success more when it eventually returns.

This is specifically NOT having a go at anyone, but the fact is that most members of the NT would not be with us a few years in the doldrums. Maybe not even a few months! They would jump back on the post-doldrumnal bandwagon pretty sharp though.

As is, of course, their perfect right.

perhaps a better question is would you rather see improvements in results or performance?

Improving performance indicates the team (players and coaches) are doing the right things while results can be entirely dependant on who you are playing. So over any run of games I'd rather see improved performances.

except of course on April the 10th.

I'll still be here. I'm a sucker for punishment.

But I'd like to making my stance clear. I think the current team are 2/3 players away from being a force again. But I don't have any faith in McNamara's ability to coach the side towards winning silverware.

Even if the team say lost all of the games.

I agree a strike and a halfback with a bit of vision and we would be an entirely different proposition.

Yeah I think you're right. Can't help thinking that totally new (quality) centres and half backs would make us a brilliant team. Obviously not enough money etc. but it would make us a lot better. Jeffries and Sykes are improving but still not good enough for a top team imo.

I wasn't replacing Jefferies.

No, he's moving on up, and also not Nero. Is there any in SL currently playing better? I'd say not.

i can take losing,providing we put in a good performance

If they are winning though then they are not playing , are they? They are playing quality, effective rugby that is good to watch. I never got this 'Boring Bulls' malarky that fans of other sides said we played under Nobby, and to some extent Bulls fans who have also now decided to think it was boring after Nobby has left. It was excellent stuff and I would much prefer to see us playing that game now than the game which we are currently playing now

No, I know that I just think given the opportunity it would be good to have 2 totally new half backs.

I'd rather win dull, than lose in an entertaining game.

I think i'd have to agree with you. Although winning every game of the season dully would be very boring.







I'd still love it though

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Havent read any of the posts apart from the OP's but dont results 9 times from 10 come from a good performance?

As per some of the posts above.

The question has to be put in context. After a run of poor results (like now) but improving performances it has to be the result.

If we had a couple of "lucky" wins (we should be SO lucky) without the performance and I'm at Odsal watching ... I'd want to see a good team performance.

Leeds v Catalans is your 1 out of 10 then.

When Tony Smith was in charge of Leeds he made a statement to the effect that performance is more important than results on every occasion. Needless to say there were some predictable responses on southstander

No, Leeds and Saints are different at the moment. Against Celtic, Salford and Catalan we can afford to play below par as they are below the standard of the rest of the comp. Then there are 9 teams who can all beat each other if they put in decent performances. Then Leeds and Saints are a bit ahead at the moment. We still need to put in a decent performance against the middle 9 to be in with a chance of winning though.

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I'd settle for a win. Any win. By a point. Scrappy. Dubious. I'm not bothered right now.

I agree, I bet the team does aswell. You could see how much it meant to them a couple of weeks ago, a couple of wins in a row might give us the confidence to start defending and stop knocking on.