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| Got to take into account they've made £125,000 a year in rent too.
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| And they have done nothing to ensure the upkeep of the ground. No surprise it’s depreciated.
Wouldn’t be a Bradford off-season if we didn’t have a discussion about Odsal.
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| I don't trust the RFL to protect the Bulls in any sale.
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| Quote ="Bulls4"And they have done nothing to ensure the upkeep of the ground. No surprise it’s depreciated.
Come on be fair we did get some second hand posts.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"£1.25m initially, but they devalued it by £400k in 2018...
[urlhttps://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16346917.rfl-drops-valuation-bradford-bulls-odsal-stadium-400-000/[/url'"
Thank you for your honest reply, and those people at the RFL (some have already been removed wi a golden handshake). wonder why the majority of RL fans also have no faith in the game’s administrators. See you at Belle Vue next season, providing those same administrators don’t cock up the championship and league one structure.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Well, does anyone remember back in the glory days when threads like this would instantly have 20+ pages?
Back then, there were a fair few regular posters who reckoned that the whole thing about the RFL buying the lease was all a long-term plot for Nigel Wood to eventually get hold of the Odsal lease at a knockdown price.
Perhaps we are now entering the end game **places fingers together conspiratorially**
Maybe now we'll get the reasons for the lease sale, the constant insertion of useless owners who then went bust, and all that crap from the last decade...'"
Bulls RLFans is renowned for its monster-length threads. Sadly, they only appear in times of trouble. Let's hope this one is a short one!
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| Quote ="Nothus"IMG related? In what way?
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Hirst says IMG put 'significant obligations on stadium owners' so looks like they'd have to bring it up to scratch at some point.
Another RFL own goal?
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| One thing we’ve learnt from the sale package, the stockcars have a lease until 2041
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Well, does anyone remember back in the glory days when threads like this would instantly have 20+ pages?
[iBack then, there were a fair few regular posters who reckoned that the whole thing about the RFL buying the lease was all a long-term plot for Nigel Wood to eventually get hold of the Odsal lease at a knockdown price.[/i
Perhaps we are now entering the end game **places fingers together conspiratorially**
Maybe now we'll get the reasons for the lease sale, the constant insertion of useless owners who then went bust, and all that crap from the last decade...'"
I think you are very close to the truth, a few twists and turns to come soon but the truth will never come to light.
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| Nestegg has offered to meet anyone who wants to know the TRUTH in Wetherspoons in town. I believe there is a bombshell waiting to hit the press which will definitively reveal the links between the future of Odsal and a crash in a Parisian tunnel. Book now for an illuminating chat and/or a fight.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"£1.25m initially, but they devalued it by £400k in 2018...
[urlhttps://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16346917.rfl-drops-valuation-bradford-bulls-odsal-stadium-400-000/[/url'" Techinaclly they paid nothing for the lease, all the day did was essentially snatch the lease when Robin Hood and his band of merry jokers couldn't pay back the secret loan the RFL had slipped us without mentioning it to the other clubs. All the talk of protecting rugby at Odsal was and still is utter drivel driven by money.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Techinaclly they paid nothing for the lease, all the day did was essentially snatch the lease when Robin Hood and his band of merry jokers couldn't pay back the secret loan the RFL had slipped us without mentioning it to the other clubs. All the talk of protecting rugby at Odsal was and still is utter drivel driven by money.'"
Yep, the rfl bricked themselves and converted their unsecured loan into an asset with value. I wondered at the time what the administration thought of that a few months later
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| Quote ="Scarey71"Hirst says IMG put 'significant obligations on stadium owners' so looks like they'd have to bring it up to scratch at some point.
Another RFL own goal?'"
They want them video advertising boards
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| Presuming you mean LED hoardings - why? - if the match is any good, nobody reads them!
Only people that work in schmarketing think that schmarketing works!
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| Quote ="Highlander"One thing we’ve learnt from the sale package, the stockcars have a lease until 2041'"
They have a licence until 2041, not a lease. Had a quick look at Odsal Motorsports on Companies House. Two directors with £1 shares apiece, apparently.
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| Quote ="Ckt2487"I don't trust the RFL to protect the Bulls in any sale.'"
I don’t trust the RFL… full stop
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| Quote ="Scarey71"Hirst says IMG put 'significant obligations on stadium owners' so looks like they'd have to bring it up to scratch at some point.
Another RFL own goal?'"
The council have the freehold
The RFL have the leasehold
The club and the stock at company are the tenants
So what’s the IMG’s definition of the owner?
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| Quote ="Bullnorthern"The council have the freehold
The RFL have the leasehold
The club and the stock at company are the tenants
So what’s the IMG’s definition of the owner?'"
Who knows?
But in commercial property it's the norm for the leaseholder to have to maintain the property. The RFL let the stadium deteriorate in the years between 2012 and now. Anyone can see that.
I can't see any potential buyer wanting to pump money into it to improve it. They're more likely to see it as a development site.
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| My conspiracy goes like
1) CBMDC get the lease back
2) Richard Dunn becomes a victim of a weird kind of fire that destroys concrete and the lands cleared
3) CBMC sell the Odsal plot (that used to include the RD area if I remember right before it was split some years ago
4) CBMDC pledge to build a stadium on the RD plot
5) Were still playing zero G RL at Dewsbury in the year 2099
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Who knows?
But in commercial property it's the norm for the leaseholder to have to maintain the property. The RFL let the stadium deteriorate in the years between 2012 and now. Anyone can see that.
I can't see any potential buyer wanting to pump money into it to improve it. They're more likely to see it as a development site.'"
Indeed. Whilst £750k probably isn’t a huge amount for a property developer, it’s difficult to imagine any of them paying that price and then “protecting professional rugby in Bradford “. It just doesn’t stack up. They will be more interested in filling the hole in and building a retail park, I would imagine.
Tbf it’s time the Odsal nettle was grasped as it can’t be left to decay indefinitely, but where it will leave the Bulls is a cause for concern as things stand.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"My conspiracy goes like
1) CBMDC get the lease back
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3) CBMC sell the Odsal plot (that used to include the RD area if I remember right before it was split some years ago
4) CBMDC pledge to build a stadium on the RD plot
5) Were still playing zero G RL at Dewsbury in the year 2099'"
Richard Dunn built using RAAC concrete perhaps
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| If Dunn's does eventually and mysteriously burn down then I'm afraid I can only see that site being used for housing. I'm not even sure it's big enough for a new stadium.
The Bulls need a nice new out of town stadium a bit like what Warrington got. Absolutely no chance of local authority funding for it in Bradford though. The council are utterly skint.
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| We need to think outside the box. There's an athletics stadium opposite the shay. We could develop that and rebrand as Calderdale Bulls. The area is crying out for a competitive RL club to support. I'm no expert but I've designed something really quite special I reckon.
[url=https://ibb.co/Lxkdzk0 [/url
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| I'm liking the goal posts being on the main road. That will make things really interesting for drivers.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm liking the goal posts being on the main road. That will make things really interesting for drivers.'"
I was watching the grand final and thinking those narrow in-goal areas are nice but we can go even further. Why not have the in-goal areas as carpark.
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