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| So the usual suspects.
Bloody hell, the future's bright then....
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| Unconfirmed and unsubstantiated, and even if its true not stated whether or not its a complete list.
Also somewhat at variance with something I in turn was told from a very good source several weeks ago,
Suggest keep powder dry and speculation damped until we know whether we have anything to get excited or angry over?
And, as I said a bit ago, be careful what you wish for.
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| I just hope it is announced by end of this month. We need the man to be building his squad before all the potential signings get snapped up
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| If we sign Macca I hope he gets shut of Worrincy and brings Scarsbrook with him.
Get rid of Nero and sign a kid with a bit of pace and promise, like Craig Hall.
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| I hope it's Matty Elliott.
I hear that he's planning on making Nathan Graham his first signing as were short of a decent Full Back!!!
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"If we sign Macca I hope he brings Scarsbrook with him.'"
the word Is LMS is leeds bound!
just an update for ya on your foolish "peacock is past it" nonsense! 3 weeks into a 6 weeks injury he posted these stats:
242 meters with 34 tackles from the bench! a monumental effort once again from JP! a 2 year deal coming up for the god like warrior that is JP!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the word Is LMS is leeds bound!
just an update for ya on your foolish "peacock is past it" nonsense! 3 weeks into a 6 weeks injury he posted these stats:
242 meters with 34 tackles from the bench! a monumental effort once again from JP! a 2 year deal coming up for the god like warrior that is JP!'"
Where have you heard about LMS to Leeds? Thought it was Wigan if he decides to move North
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| Please tell me you're joking about John Kear??
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Where have you heard about LMS to Leeds? Thought it was Wigan if he decides to move North'" usual rumour mill!
Where did you hear LMS to Wigan if at all?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Please tell me you're joking about John Kear??'"
Got a proven record of working on a tight budget, not afraid to play youngsters and bring them through, a good motivator of players and a proven Superleague coach.
Got to be realistic about our next coach, unfortunately we don't have bundles of cash to attract a top Aussie coach, and Kear would be a safe appointment.
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| Regarding recruitment, any Aussie coach would need to be pretty clued up about the British game as this is where the majority, if not all, of our recruitment will be coming from.
Taken from the squad list the only player out of contract at the end of this year who will count as quota next year (assuming it's true that Nero can get himself counted as non quota) will be Menzies.
Does anyone who's seen him play this year want Menzies to go? I certainly don't.
4. Chris Nero OVERSEAS TRAINED 2010
6. Brett Kearney OVERSEAS TRAINED 2011
7. Matt Orford OVERSEAS TRAINED 2012
9. Heath L'Estrange OVERSEAS TRAINED 2011
11. Steve Menzies OVERSEAS TRAINED 2010
12. Glenn Hall OVERSEAS TRAINED 2012
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"the word Is LMS is leeds bound!
just an update for ya on your foolish "peacock is past it" nonsense! 3 weeks into a 6 weeks injury he posted these stats:
242 meters with 34 tackles from the bench! a monumental effort once again from JP! a 2 year deal coming up for the god like warrior that is JP!'"
Ahhh, JP. What a man he was, I remember him when he was winning man of steel and players player of the year etc.
Mind, I'd have him back tomorrow
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Ahhh, JP. What a man he was, I remember him when he was winning man of steel and players player of the year etc.'"
I don't buy this argument that JP is somehow a lesser player at Leeds. There might be an argument if he actually played in a similar role at both clubs, but he didn't. IIRC he won his Man of Steel trophy at Bradford playing as a destructive wide-running second row with a handy off load, yet when he signed for Leeds he was already making the transition to being an out and out prop forward (causing much debate over his best position on substandard). Many would argue that the main reason Leeds have won three titles in a row was because of JP - not doing the spectacular stuff he did at Bradford, but for his yardage, workrate in attack and defence, and for his never say die attitude. IMO for these reasons Leeds were able to sneak a victory against Wigan in the cup recently, not due to any notion of it being 'lucky Leeds' again as some on here have argued. Whilst we're not as reliant on him as our main forward this season with the likes of Bailey pulling their weight there is no doubt that JP gives us the edge in big games. Obviously it is not just about him but he's certainly the most consistent of our star players IMO (Sinfield, McGuire, Webb, Senior etc all more prone to having off-days).
Bulls fans should surely take some pride (or not in the case of certain die-hard anti Leeds people) in the fact that much of our success has been based on a Bradford product...
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Some folk on here would have you believe Nathan was a decent full back.'"
Nathan Graham, if playing today, would probably be our no.2 full back after Brett Kearney. All the negatives stem from one match, where most of the mistakes which got dumped on him were actually far from his alone, in fact, he was far from the worst offender that day.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I don't buy this argument that JP is somehow a lesser player at Leeds. There might be an argument if he actually played in a similar role at both clubs, but he didn't. IIRC he won his Man of Steel trophy at Bradford playing as a destructive wide-running second row with a handy off load, yet when he signed for Leeds he was already making the transition to being an out and out prop forward (causing much debate over his best position on substandard). Many would argue that the main reason Leeds have won three titles in a row was because of JP - not doing the spectacular stuff he did at Bradford, but for his yardage, workrate in attack and defence, and for his never say die attitude. IMO for these reasons Leeds were able to sneak a victory against Wigan in the cup recently, not due to any notion of it being 'lucky Leeds' again as some on here have argued. Whilst we're not as reliant on him as our main forward this season with the likes of Bailey pulling their weight there is no doubt that JP gives us the edge in big games. Obviously it is not just about him but he's certainly the most consistent of our star players IMO (Sinfield, McGuire, Webb, Senior etc all more prone to having off-days).
Bulls fans should surely take some pride (or not in the case of certain die-hard anti Leeds people) in the fact that much of our success has been based on a Bradford product...'"
No arguments from me pal, hence the bit you cut from the quote of my post: But I'd have him back tomorrow
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Nathan Graham, if playing today, would probably be our no.2 full back after Brett Kearney. All the negatives stem from one match, where most of the mistakes which got dumped on him were actually far from his alone, in fact, he was far from the worst offender that day.'"
No they dont. Nathan couldn't catch a cold. Saints knew this before the game because of the dropped balls leading up to the final, thats why Bobbie called it 'the Nathan'.
If NG could catch, like a FB should be able to then we'd have probs won the game that day.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"No arguments from me pal, hence the bit you cut from the quote of my post: But I'd have him back tomorrow'"
I took that comment to reflect the current situation (injuries, money issues etc) at Bradford rather than implying that he is just as good now (but different), which would have contradicted the first part of your post. If that makes any sense.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I took that comment to reflect the current situation (injuries, money issues etc) at Bradford rather than implying that he is just as good now (but different), which would have contradicted the first part of your post. If that makes any sense.'"
I'd have him back with a fully fit squad.
JP was at the point where he was possibly losing the edge to his pace but was putting on a bit of bulk and gaining experience, at the point where his next logical step was to prop rather than second row. Only an idiot would suggest that his play in that position has been less than superb. The two things which P me off are 1 (sorry, but from a Bulls' perspective) he's doing it at Leeds and 2 that the only reason he left was because he was bad mouthed by the former chairman who in exactly that many words told him to F off when he asked for a raise(from the book, No White Flag by Jamie Peacock). Thanks Chris.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I'd have him back with a fully fit squad.
JP was at the point where he was possibly losing the edge to his pace but was putting on a bit of bulk and gaining experience, at the point where his next logical step was to prop rather than second row. Only an idiot would suggest that his play in that position has been less than superb. The two things which P me off are 1 (sorry, but from a Bulls' perspective) he's doing it at Leeds and 2 that the only reason he left was because he was bad mouthed by the former chairman who in exactly that many words told him to F off when he asked for a raise(from the book, No White Flag by Jamie Peacock). Thanks Chris.'"
That's a very fair assessment.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I'd have him back with a fully fit squad.
JP was at the point where he was possibly losing the edge to his pace but was putting on a bit of bulk and gaining experience, at the point where his next logical step was to prop rather than second row. Only an idiot would suggest that his play in that position has been less than superb. The two things which P me off are 1 (sorry, but from a Bulls' perspective) he's doing it at Leeds and 2 that the only reason he left was because he was bad mouthed by the former chairman who in exactly that many words told him to F off when he asked for a raise(from the book, No White Flag by Jamie Peacock). Thanks Chris.'"
Very true but he will allways be remembered for lifting that super league trophy as captain in Bradford colours!!!
It was a sad day when he left and i wont have a bad word said about him!!!
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I don't buy this argument that JP is somehow a lesser player at Leeds.'" and nor should you! jp was crowned world forward of the year whilst at Leeds which eclipses any of the individual honours he picked up at Bradford.
peacock isn't the only reason why Leeds have set the highest level of standards in sl but our unpresidented success would not have been possible without him! He is god like! Any suggestion he is passed it or is a spent force is simply laughable. He may well be a different player from the one he was at Bradford but just as awesome a machine as a prop but with the extra passion of playing for the club he has been a life long fan of!
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| Sorry to go all FA on you here but...
Quote ="sgtwilko"and nor should you! jp was crowned world forward of the year whilst at Leeds which eclipses any of the individual honours he picked up at Bradford.'"
Man of Steel at Bradford eclipses a "World" award from a magazine that no-ones heard of in the other half of the Rugby league world
Quote ="sgtwilko" Leeds have set the highest level of standards in SL'"
That's open to debate. The trophy haul is less than Bradford due to you not winning as many Cups or WCC in that era and Saints have won more than both. BTW until you can reach and win both finals in the same season and go on to hold all four trophies at once it's arguable that Leeds haven't equalled either.
Quote ="sgtwilko"He is god like! Any suggestion he is passed it or is a spent force is simply laughable.'"
I'll agree with that
Quote ="sgtwilko"our unpresidented success'"
What's Obama got to do with it? Or is it Pol Pott or General Pinochet or someone like that?
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"
That's open to debate. The trophy haul is less than Bradford due to you not winning as many Cups or WCC in that era and Saints have won more than both. BTW until you can reach and win both finals in the same season and go on to hold all four trophies at once it's arguable that Leeds haven't equalled either.'"
is it true that winning the gf is now the mark of a champion side?
it's also very hard to win a gf
can we all agree on this so far?
now to the nitty gritty
as they saying goes "winning a gf is hard,but retaining it is even harder!
can we all agree on this?
at this point can all the bulls fans stop posting on this topic as you have won the gf on 3 separate occasions but sadly could never back this feat up the following season!
if any saints fans are over here and want to put their 2 penneth in,then feel free as your side were the first to win "back to back" gf's
but sadly you must now refrain from posting on this topic as you could not manage a "back to back to back" gf wins,
anyone who deems 3 gf wins in succession doesn't mean that they're the best sl side in history are wrong imo
but please come back and tell me so when some side has actually beaten this record
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| Brian Mac with Jimmy in an expanded assistant role.
Close to agreement.
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