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| Quote ="Rarebreed"When did Salford supporters once shout Marvin give us a wave...it must have embarrased him at the Salford game when our fans were shouting for Omar to give 'em a wave...and of course he did! That's how to win Hearts and Minds.'"
Has Marvin Golden signed for Salford???? I must have missed that.
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| Despite Koukash's rattlings about big name signings nothing had happened for months
Until now with the Whitehead signing for a substantial sum of money.
It does now seem to be a commitment to expenditure and a statement of intent.
There is little doubt in my mind that Brian Noble would not have joined Salford without being assured of a War Chest to significantly improve the entire team.
So a large signing on fee and a considerably better contract for Whitehead is a start
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| Confirmed on T&A website this morning that Whitehead has turned Salford down.
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| I wish he hadn't turned Salford down. The good that would have come to us from the money. We really could have built for next year . At least the thought of Nobby crying into his weetabix that he can't sign any players will make me smile this morning.
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| Catalan looks like the only viable option now. Perhaps a swap deal could be arranged if the Dragons are reluctant to pay a transfer fee?
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| Looks like some negotiation to be done with Catalans. Shame the Salford deal didn't go through from our POV.
Apparently Cummins is prepared to let Whitehead stew rather than just give in to his demands.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Looks like some negotiation to be done with Catalans. Shame the Salford deal didn't go through from our POV.
Apparently Cummins is prepared to let Whitehead stew rather than just give in to his demands.'"
What demands are they???
Don't believe all you read in the papers.
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| I'm really starting to think something else has gone on here that has made EW want away from the club.
Even right from the outset, there was no logic whatsoever behind both the timing of all this and also his reasons. He wants to join a top four club, but did he honestly believe that a club aspiring to finish so far up the table would have cap space free mid-season to accomodate him?
Surely neither he nor his agent are that naive.
So most people then go on to assume that he was tapped up, perhaps even by Salford themselves. But it has been weeks since his request to leave was submitted, the club have had only one serious offer, and EW has rejected the move. So that pretty much rules out the tapping up theory imo, otherwise surely a deal would have been done by now.
The report in today's t&a mentions that FC and EW spoke last Friday, but they were unable to reach a 'reconciliation'. I think there is more to this than we are being led to believe.
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"What demands are they???
Don't believe all you read in the papers.'"
Whitehead wants to leave, and wants to go to a top 4 club. Those are his demands. However he won't get what he wants unless Catalans or whoever are prepared to stump up. In the meantime Cummins isn't going to welcome him back into the fold or let him go for peanuts.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Whitehead wants to leave, and wants to go to a top 4 club. Those are his demands. However he won't get what he wants unless Catalans or whoever are prepared to stump up. In the meantime Cummins isn't going to welcome him back into the fold or let him go for peanuts.'"
all bluster I'm afraid.
Just wait for the real news to be confirmed.
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"all bluster I'm afraid.
Just wait for the real news to be confirmed.'"
So you're saying the club will let him go for nowt? Can't see it.
Elliott can sit on his backside colecting his contract payments but those £700 match fees add up to a lot of cash that he won't be getting while this impasse continues.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I'm really starting to think something else has gone on here that has made EW want away from the club.
Even right from the outset, there was no logic whatsoever behind both the timing of all this and also his reasons. He wants to join a top four club, but did he honestly believe that a club aspiring to finish so far up the table would have cap space free mid-season to accomodate him?
Surely neither he nor his agent are that naive.
So most people then go on to assume that he was tapped up, perhaps even by Salford themselves. But it has been weeks since his request to leave was submitted, the club have had only one serious offer, and EW has rejected the move. So that pretty much rules out the tapping up theory imo, otherwise surely a deal would have been done by now.
The report in today's t&a mentions that FC and EW spoke last Friday, but they were unable to reach a 'reconciliation'. I think there is more to this than we are being led to believe.'"
Elliot turning down the move to Salford makes me think the complete opposite. If he wanted out so badly because of some behind the scenes problems we don't know about, he would have accepted any move offered to him. Especially since we can assume Salford were going to pay him better than we pay him.
Him and franny met but couldn't reach a 'reconciliation' I think that's fair enough.... Elliot wants to play for a top 4 club and we are currently not top 4. It doesn't mean it was a heated argument between then. Perhaps just a 'I need a change of scene, I want to test myself at the top now.
For all the Elliot bashing, rightly and wrongly IMO, maybe Elliot turning down Salford is just him sticking to what he said he wanted, a chance at a top 4 club.... surely we should give him credit for that
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| If he gets a move to Catalans the onus will be on him to become a top player, there'll be no room for excuses then. If he does it then good luck to him. I just hope we get a few quid.
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| I wonder if Elliots situation has got anything to do with a potential new director pulling out ?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Obviously tapped up.
Top 4 my Harris.'"
You want to retract this libellous statement now?
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| Quote ="Adamjk"You want to retract this libellous statement now?'"
What are you on about?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"What are you on about?'"
Accusing us of tapping up Whitehead after making an offer. He's rejected the offer so obviously he wasn't tapped up. Your post could be deemed as defamatory...
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| Where does bullseye mention Salford in his post?
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| Quote ="mat"Where does bullseye mention Salford in his post?'"
It was posted a couple of posts after it was announced that we had a bid along with the comment 'Top 4 my Harris'. It's quite obvious who he was talking about. A statement can be defamatory without explicitly mentioning the point they're putting across.
Anyway, I'm being awkward just for the sake of it... just bored of seeing anti-Salford posts around these forums
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| If You ask me the contract we gave to Elliot whitehead of £2k a week was more than he is worth.
I cant see him getting the money of what the likes of Wilkin, JJB, Hock, Ellis, Soiliola, Delaney are on. Simply because when you put him next to them he is 3rd division.
All this driving about in his White BMW and being the big I am.. seems to have got to his head. He needs to take a step back and think about what he has done. Sack the agent and get his head down n learn how to tackle. Maybe in 5 years IF he gets his head down he might turn out to be a decent player.
He needs to grow up and show a bit of Maturity.
On the other hand as Rodger Daley says. If Catalan want him. I would take Leon Pryce and £50k as he is coming to the end of his days.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"It was posted a couple of posts after it was announced that we had a bid along with the comment 'Top 4 my Harris'. It's quite obvious who he was talking about. A statement can be defamatory without explicitly mentioning the point they're putting across.
Anyway, I'm being awkward just for the sake of it... just bored of seeing anti-Salford posts around these forums
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Calm down. TBH I can't be ar5sed arguing about it. I could say that just because he's rejected the Salford offer doesn't prove he wasn't approached by them or someone on behalf of them in the first place. But it doesn't matter, looks like he's probably not going there anyway.
Personally I've nothing against Salford. If Whitehead had been approached by someone from another club he wouldn't be the first or the last. The Bulls have been on both sides of that situation plenty of times.
I hope Salford do manage to actually show some substance behind all the press talk and sign some decent players, like most fans of other clubs I hope it's not at our expense.
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| So much smoke from Salford about signing Tom, Dick & Harry.... will be David Beckham next.
That or Dwayne chambers
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| Joe Tamani and myself are now friends
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| Quote ="roger daly"Joe Tamani and myself are now friends'"
Shouldnt that be on the joke thread?
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| We're budgeted for Whitehead's salary. I say let him sit home until his contract runs out. You might say he's getting money for nothing, I say he's reaping what he sows as that would see him out of the game for the next 3 years . No training within a rugby environment, no advice from specialist fitness and nutrition experts. Pretty much the shafting of his career in terms of getting near a top 4 club. Probably for getting a spot with a SL team.
The club have been spineless in the past regarding players who thought themselves too good for Bradford. Which is probably what he and his agent hoped would happen this time and the club would just hand him a release.
Time for the board to play hardball.
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