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| I wouldn't be in the queue to blag Halifax. They did enough to win without knocking themselves out presumably because of having another game on Monday. Defensively they were solid and in attack all they had to do was one pass and a drive. And the main thing was no errors. Our first aim should be to play like them.
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| Like I said no points cheap ground 20 mins for the fit gemma.to pull a pint
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| She was probably giving you time to add your pound coins up?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"How sour are those grapes? Players collapsing on the floor? Was that the one with the broken arm or the one with the head knock? If we continue to average only 18 points against us each game we will make the top 4 so you are right about that. You really were not as bad as you are making out you are just disappointed with the result at the moment and if you watch it back Im sure you will see you did OK. Once again Fax's discipline was very poor but when we can defend like we are doing we can get away with it still we need to cut out the silly penalties.
And finally a dig at our fans, Im sorry they didnt turn out but Bradford simply no longer holds the appeal that they did the last few seasons.'"
No mate, no sour grapes at all. I didn't expect to win last night, in fact I expected us to get smashed, but you really weren't very good. That's why I'm disappointed because we bombed too many chances to give you a game and had we played like we did against Sheffield, we could have won.
Of course it doesn't have the appeal. It doesn't to us either. But still a poor turnout.
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| Halifax did just about enough, but there wasn't a lot in it.
You could tell the bulls pack was made up with second rowers, but despite this Halifax scraped home with three tries from kicks and one awful try where the entire team switched off after the sinbinning.
I thought the game was fairly evenly matched, Halifax just had that extra little bit of size, experience and luck. The bulls didn't have anyone in the middle last night who could turn it around for them
Put Chisholm and Murray in that bulls side, and I think we could have been looking at a different result. We got over the line three times and couldn't get the ball down.
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| Listen, I think we as you will all agree are in a better position than we thought we would be in after 10 rounds,it's a case of targeting the games we can win and then let's see where we are after 16/17 rounds, we are not going to win every game, let's just get behind the lads, coyb
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| Which player that collapsed to ground to waste time? The one with arm injury or one with broken cheekbone
Anyway all in all apart from those two injuries a good night. I hear Oxford is a nice city to visit you could make a weekend of it next year
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| Quote ="neilgreenwood"Which player that collapsed to ground to waste time? The one with arm injury or one with broken cheekbone
Anyway all in all apart from those two injuries a good night. I hear Oxford is a nice city to visit you could make a weekend of it next year
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Not sure. He was good to go and play the rest of the half though. So can't have been too major.
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| Quote ="debaser"Quote ="neilgreenwood"Which player that collapsed to ground to waste time? The one with arm injury or one with broken cheekbone
Anyway all in all apart from those two injuries a good night. I hear Oxford is a nice city to visit you could make a weekend of it next year
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Not sure. He was good to go and play the rest of the half though. So can't have been too major.'"
No he wasn't.
Grix (arm) went off 5 mins after having his elbow strapped up and didn't come back on. Heaton (cheekbone) went off straight away and didn't come back on.
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| Agree with much that has already been said.
We really do need some permanent forwards who aren't going to disappear when when another club needs them, and this has to be a priority imo. Fair enough, we lacked any props at at all, bar young Kirk, and he was a lone warrior really amongst all the second rows. I don't think Fax were very good either tbh, I expected being mullered with the team we put out and yet, bar for the myriad of errors, including not getting the ball down when over the line, we could well have won.
I wouldn't blame the academy lads, they did alright and let no-one down, but some of the senior players need to have a look at their performances. Pryce's dodgy knees didn't look anything like fit and neither did Caro, he seemed tentative and unable to jump, so I guess he's got some problem.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"No he wasn't.
Grix (arm) went off 5 mins after having his elbow strapped up and didn't come back on. Heaton (cheekbone) went off straight away and didn't come back on.
Enjoy Coventry.'"
I'm not talking about Grix. And the one I'm talking about definitely didn't go off. He played on for the rest of the game. Were you watching the same game?
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| A couple of additions to our pack and i see no issues with us staying up. The blue socks scraped a win past a young bradford team and are currently a top 4 side. These young lads are only going to improve as the season progresses.Well done fax you deserved the win and thanks to the 20 blue socks fans who made the trip to odsal last night.
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| All this talk of visiting Oxford and Coventry. Presumably you mean 2019 after the next reorganisation when franchising is reintroduced and they put us back in SL
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| We may still have the threat of relegation to deal with but I would rather watch our side full of young HG players than be a Fax fan.
They were better than us last night, as expected, but as others have said they were nothing special and if you look at results so far across the season we aren't far off where Halifax are despite having no pre-season and losing the majority of our best players.
I am sure Halifax won't be pleased they couldn't win by more given we had two 20 year olds in the centres, and 4 of our pack were 20 or under.
Oh and Oxford may be a nice city but the RL team no longer play in Oxford city so the Fax fan spouting rubbish needs to do his research.
I'm confident we will beat them later in the year if we have Murray, Peltier and one of Chisholm/Lilley in the side.
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| The sad thing for Fax is we will take more fans to Oxford or Cov next year than they did last night
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"The sad thing for Fax is we will take more fans to Oxford or Cov next year than they did last night'"
Reason for fax not taking a massive following to the slum. Tip of a ground with no cover to stand under in rain.
Lots of fans don't like going there and putting money into the coffers of a club who keep living beyond their meens and will probably go bust again at end of season.
Such good sortsmanship from your wonderful fans ( booing a player who has broken his cheekbone) real class
Enjoy life at the bottom. It's always nice to beat you.
Funny how every time we beat you and that's been quite a few times over last couple of seasons you have an excuse for the lose. Never that fax where the better team like Last night.
See you at the shay (a proper ground) later in the season when we beat you again. Wonder what excuses you will come up with next time must be running out of them
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| Quote ="neilgreenwood"Reason for fax not taking a massive following to the slum. Tip of a ground with no cover to stand under in rain.
Lots of fans don't like going there and putting money into the coffers of a club who keep living beyond their meens and will probably go bust again at end of season.
Such good sortsmanship from your wonderful fans ( booing a player who has broken his cheekbone) real class
Enjoy life at the bottom. It's always nice to beat you.
Funny how every time we beat you and that's been quite a few times over last couple of seasons you have an excuse for the lose. Never that fax where the better team like Last night.
See you at the shay (a proper ground) later in the season when we beat you again. Wonder what excuses you will come up with next time must be running out of them
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At least this one can write (but can't spell). I don't think it can read though as multiple posters (myself included) have stated that Halifax deserved the win. That doesn't mean we can't comment on the quality of either side or the players we didn't have available.
Using the ground as an excuse not to attend is poor - if you really had enough interest in your team then you turn up and watch.
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| Quote ="neilgreenwood"Reason for fax not taking a massive following to the slum. Tip of a ground with no cover to stand under in rain.
Lots of fans don't like going there and putting money into the coffers of a club who keep living beyond their meens and will probably go bust again at end of season.
Such good sortsmanship from your wonderful fans ( booing a player who has broken his cheekbone) real class
Enjoy life at the bottom. It's always nice to beat you.
Funny how every time we beat you and that's been quite a few times over last couple of seasons you have an excuse for the lose. Never that fax where the better team like Last night.
See you at the shay (a proper ground) later in the season when we beat you again. Wonder what excuses you will come up with next time must be running out of them
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You are only not in a slum because of the council and FC Halifax. the football club paid their share of the East stand development and after all your scummy lot promised paid nothing then didnt pay rent. I work with a guy who is an FC Halifax fan and he has paperwork requested showing what each put into it. Hope they end up locking yous out permanently
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"At least this one can write (but can't spell). I don't think it can read though as multiple posters (myself included) have stated that Halifax deserved the win. That doesn't mean we can't comment on the quality of either side or the players we didn't have available.
Using the ground as an excuse not to attend is poor - if you really had enough interest in your team then you turn up and watch.'"
I did attend and allways will follow the mighty blue m whites but it's a fact many fax fans hate that dump of a ground and won't go there,my dad included.
Anyway I'm a very happy fax fan this morning no matter what you think of our performance and your excuses -again for losing.
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| Another frustrating and disappointing game, but comparing what both teams did, Fax were comfortably better.
The main reasons for this are because they had 3/4 of the field position, number of reasons for that but the end result is you spend most of the game trying to get away from your own line, this leads to fatigue, which degrades performance, support play and decision making.
It's no shock of course as everyone including owners knows full well we simply don't have enough grunt available and if one thing kills us this season then it will be that.
Fatigue probably also plays a part in a secondary reason, that is persisting in pis.sing away possession through inexcusable mistakes and bad discipline. Not as bad as some games but still just not good enough, some of the basic errors really make you cringe, and sadly you pretty much know when we will cough it up, if not exactly how. Leon was especially guilty of a couple of great attacking positions being pis.sed away.
Another secondary reason is our embarrassing inability to deal with high kicks and kicks into space. Mercifully Fax hadn't done their homework on this and the bombs were limited but its like nobody wants any ball in the air, so all leave it to someone else.
I will add that despite the above, we could easily have won, if we hadn't managed to literally three times lose the ball in the act of scoring - two pretty much under the posts. That's different, you've done the hard work, and on another night you ground the ball and in. Would've been very hard on a workmanlike Fax team but if a couple of those had been 6 pointers then likely we would've pinched the win.
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| Quote ="neilgreenwood"I did attend and allways will follow the mighty blue m whites but it's a fact many fax fans hate that dump of a ground and won't go there,my dad included.
Anyway I'm a very happy fax fan this morning no matter what you think of our performance and your excuses -again for losing.'"
Again, no excuses - not sure where you are getting this from? The better team won on the day, but you should have done better against a very young and inexperienced side.
I hate Belle Vue but still go there when I have to. The championship would be better off if people like your dad just sucked it up and went to games.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Another frustrating and disappointing game, but comparing what both teams did, Fax were comfortably better.
The main reasons for this are because they had 3/4 of the field position, number of reasons for that but the end result is you spend most of the game trying to get away from your own line, this leads to fatigue, which degrades performance, support play and decision making.
It's no shock of course as everyone including owners knows full well we simply don't have enough grunt available and if one thing kills us this season then it will be that.
Fatigue probably also plays a part in a secondary reason, that is persisting in pis.sing away possession through inexcusable mistakes and bad discipline. Not as bad as some games but still just not good enough, some of the basic errors really make you cringe, and sadly you pretty much know when we will cough it up, if not exactly how. Leon was especially guilty of a couple of great attacking positions being pis.sed away.
Another secondary reason is our embarrassing inability to deal with high kicks and kicks into space. Mercifully Fax hadn't done their homework on this and the bombs were limited but its like nobody wants any ball in the air, so all leave it to someone else.
I will add that despite the above, we could easily have won, if we hadn't managed to literally three times lose the ball in the act of scoring - two pretty much under the posts. That's different, you've done the hard work, and on another night you ground the ball and in. Would've been very hard on a workmanlike Fax team but if a couple of those had been 6 pointers then likely we would've pinched the win.'"
Good point about the high balls.
At the moment kick offs and bombs make me extremely nervous. No excuses for that when we have a team of FT professionals.
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| Quote ="neilgreenwood"I did attend and allways will follow the mighty blue m whites but it's a fact many fax fans hate that dump of a ground and won't go there,my dad included.
Anyway I'm a very happy fax fan this morning no matter what you think of our performance and your excuses -again for losing.'"
I don't see excuses. We blew it. Simple as. Too many basic errors to put ourselves under pressure. Fax were average. You must know that. You did enough to grind out a win but you can't be happy with your performance surely? A top four side should be putting 50 past us.
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| Whispers that Daniel Murray could turn out for Fax on Monday. Is that one of the loanees you guys has recalled?
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| Quote ="Anita Madigan"A couple of additions to our pack and i see no issues with us staying up. The blue socks scraped a win past a young bradford team and are currently a top 4 side. These young lads are only going to improve as the season progresses.Well done fax you deserved the win and thanks to the 20 blue socks fans who made the trip to odsal last night.'"
Yeah, Anita, I agree the young lads should improve over the season - but not if they are used as permanent frontline players every week - particularly in the forwards and more particularly the props. As it is, some of them are being used as the mainstay of the side and it surely can't be right to heap all that responsibility onto their young shoulders. We have too many in the side at the same time and they will need a break, so we certainly can't go on all season as we are. The squad is too small - simple as, imo.
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