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| Quote ="Bullseye"On current form I can only see us beating London.'"
It is inherent in any Spreadsheet that much of the data for future predictions cannot be held as certain and should be assessed from a statistical analysis of proven historical data added to reasoned assumptions based on any new data which may be available.
In the application of assumptions care has been taken by this author to disregard any elements of a preconceived conclusion or the taint of personal bias through emotional of pecuniary reward.
I do hereby declare that the final Super League standing positions as sumarised from my spreadsheet show a true and fair view of the state of affairs as projected my me.
Bobsmyuncle
24th June 2013
Note1.[u Related Parties[/u
a. Bobsmyuncle is a long suffering rabid Bulls fan & suffers from an incurable affliction - Optimism
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| Quote ="bullsonfire"There's going to be a murder next Sunday'"
I just imagined Mystic Eddie doing his best impersonation of Taggart.
Bobysmyuncle can I have a glass of what you're having please?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I just imagined Mystic Eddie doing his best impersonation of Taggart.
Bobysmyuncle can I have a glass of what you're having please?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"On current form I can only see us beating London.'"
Would this be the same London as what knocked us out of 't Cup?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I just imagined Mystic Eddie doing his best impersonation of Taggart.
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Heck, get big Jim Taggart in our forwards, he would probably improve them. And he has been "deid" for about ten years!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Would this be the same London as what knocked us out of 't Cup?
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Maybe we will get to play the Skolars? Never could work out why you would want to name your team after a p**s poor larger?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Doubt it. Wire players will celebrate as if they have scored in a completely meaningless pre-season smash up against a low ranked opponent. Which is almost what it is.'"
Every time Atkins scores against us, which is often, he milks his celebration.
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"Maybe we will get to play the Skolars? Never could work out why you would want to name your team after a p**s poor larger?'"
A true mystery. Someone suggested that it was to do with the considerable sums of money Skol pay to them, being their main sponsors, but obviously it can't be that.
PS - one of the following statements is true, one is false. Can you tell which?
1. Skol was awarded a Gold Award at the 2012 World Quality Selections, organized by Monde Selection.
2. Thierry Alibert is a reptilian alien from the planet Zog.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"A true mystery. Someone suggested that it was to do with the considerable sums of money Skol pay to them, being their main sponsors, but obviously it can't be that.
PS - one of the following statements is true, one is false. Can you tell which?
1. Skol was awarded a Gold Award at the 2012 World Quality Selections, organized by Monde Selection.
2. Thierry Alibert is a reptilian alien from the planet Zog.'"
I am affraid all is not what it seems in the world of awards. My company recently received an award for it's ground breaking innovation from an "independent" firm of consultants - we also got a large bill from them?
Anyway I always enjoyed my holidays on Zog
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| The spreadsheet latest table prediction:
Wigan 45
Warrington 43
Hudds 38
Leeds 37
Hull FC 32
Bradford 28
Catalans 28
Hull KR 28
St. Helens 23
Widnes 22
Wakefield 19
Castleford 16
London 9
Salford ** 8
We might get in the eight therefore with only 24 points, way things are going.
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| I've not given up hope it all depends on the performance tomorrow for me. That's irrespective of result. I want them to prove they've got the hunger for the fight and the belief they can overcome all odds. Another performance like the past few weeks (well basically since the hudds game at magic) and I'll give hope too.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The spreadsheet latest table prediction:
Wigan 45
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Hull FC 32
Bradford 28
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Wakefield 19
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We might get in the eight therefore with only 24 points, way things are going.'"
Where are we going to get 8-12 points from? The way we are playing, I can only see 2-4 points and that's if we are lucky!
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I've not given up hope it all depends on the performance tomorrow for me. That's irrespective of result. I want them to prove they've got the hunger for the fight and the belief they can overcome all odds. Another performance like the past few weeks (well basically since the hudds game at magic) and I'll give hope too.'"
Yeah, performance is all really - win or lose. The eight is pretty unlikely but if there is some fire in the belly I'll go home happy.
I believe that Duckman is right to mention that the end of [inext[/i season is more important than this, since the intended re-organisation is supposed to take place, based on league positions at that point. The point that we'll still be on half TV money up to that point hasn't been missed.
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| Looking like 12th to me.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Looking like 12th to me.'"
Well, it's maybe just as likely as eighth..
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| I know sports fans are fickle & demand immediate success but it has to be viewed as a season of potential consolidation & building. The RH-P appointment is one of the few positives to come out of the second half of the season & give some optimism for the future. Carvell is a good signing, but it depends on the financial cost as to whether it is good value. If Ferguson has signed that will be a massive vote of confidence & also a sign that there is some funding in place. FC dealt with Whitehead, at least publically, in the best way possible, but I have reverted to having my own huge doubts about his ability to coach at this level.
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Spot on Tigs.
I'm not convinced about FC yet, but it sounds as though he's backing up what he said about only trying to sign good players who want to come here, and If the signings are along the same lines as Carvell and Ferguson ill be happy.
Think he deserves a proper go at recruitment and then pre season to see if he's up to it.
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| To be truthful, TT [which I always, [i:1qmzphkyalways[/i to make the decision.
Yes, I know there are plenty who are not only looking critically at results but demanding better and are possibly quite prepared to take their bats home if it isn't delivered, but whatever fans happen to want doesn't change the reality of the situation and if people don't want to join in for the long haul, well that's their prerogative. As I said ,and I'll repeat, it doesn't change the position we're in, it just makes it all the more difficult to get out of.
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| Quote ="Spannerz"Where are we going to get 8-12 points from?'"
1. I'm not Mystic Meg 2. Who said we are? 3. If you had looked at the spreadsheet, then you would see where the assumed points might come from. Then you could have saved yourself typing the question.
Quote ="Spannerz" The way we are playing, I can only see 2-4 points and that's if we are lucky!'"
Yes but that's a totally pointless statement. You might as well say "If we do not win another game then we will finish near the bottom". No shiit, Sherlock.
The problem with people like you is that when the team plays well (and it has), you don't say much, but when the team plays badly, you "can't see" it ever playing well again, and you completely disregard the early season form. You base your whole attitude on an assumption that having fallen into a slump in form, we will never, ever, under any circumstances, play well again, ever, and are now doomed to eternal crapness.
But the main thing is, you don't get the point of the thread, which was to get people to put THEIR OWN RESULT FORECASTS IN (yes, even if you predict LLLLLLLLL for the Bulls) and then post your predicted final table. If you can't be bothered, but prefer to tell us we will all die, feel free, but not here, there were and are plenty of other threads full of that.
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| My updated prediction
Wigan 45
Wolves 43
Hudds 42
Leeds 37
Hull FC 32
Cats 30
Hull KR 28
Saints 25
Bulls 22
Widnes 20
Wakey 19
Cas 16
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| Can we make the 8? Not a chance without me onboard coaching.
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| ok we make the top 8 then whats going to happen...we are just not going to do anything untill we can compete ,and thats not going to happening at the moment,
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| I pass this on without comment. I was in the pub yesterday tea time with the tigress & cub. I heard someone behind me ask 'How have they got on?' 'Got beat 26-12' was the reply. My ears then pricked up as I had had the RL on the radio just before we went out & guessed they were talking about the Bulls. 'Struggling aren't they?' 'Yes, dissension in the camp, a split between the ex Leeds lot & Bradford lot'. 'Well if anyone would know what's going off it would be you'.
I've no idea who the bloke in the 'know' was as he had his back to me.
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| Quote ="debatabull"ok we make the top 8 then whats going to happen...'"
Nothing to do with it at all. Start your own thread if you want to debate that.
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| Wakie beating Hull FC which would move us down to 10th.
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