kick from lilley but burton couldnt ground

full time hooter 12-25 ..... how many times do teams win making more errors conceeding more pens and the new 6 agains. very difficult for the bulls to make any chances but widnes defense and enterprise wins the spoils

Very poor from us today. We looked really lethargic with none of the forwards running with any intent.

Far too many errors again.

I really don't want to see Hallas at hooker again. Poor distribution, far too slow and went for glory trying to score a badge over far too many times. But it will be Jowitt (who I thought had a real dig at trying to create something) who Kear will drop and keep Hallas at hooker.

We're getting into the habit of trying to take short cuts when we get behind. The short kick-off Lilley tried with a minute before HT gave them field position to score a DG being the perfect example.

Apparently Widnes only use 15 of the 17 as well.

Which forwards are you referring to? Walker got a try and man of match, Scurr got a try Evans looked good Fleming a hallas were poor though

Evans didn't have any impact for me in his first stint. He's better than that IMO Slightly better second stint but still average. Rooks offered nothing and I feel Gallaghers gone backwards.

Hooker was the real problem today. Slow distribution just slowed the whole team down.

Bad day at the office by the sounds of it.

Who reckons we’ll be playing on this narrow pitch for the rest of the season?

Line and ruck speed poor again. Will the coaching staff please work with Pick as his one on one tackling. When he is exposed his efforts are terrible. Great bloke that hallas is and a great defender he offers very little with ball in hand. Samderson and Hamlett must have done something wrong to not get a start on the right wing today. Plus points are few today but Walker, Scurr and Jowett all tried hard but we look lost in the opposition 20 and very predictable. We hardly ever use a dummy runner just pass along the line and hope a gap opens which was very rarely today. Things have got to improve with the arrival of Keyes and lets hope we can get Robson back on an extended loan.

We should have known better than expecting as promised that the pitch widening and the new posts provided by the RL would materialise. Tossers!!

We looked exposed yesterday without Brough's organisational play and without SL loan back ups. It shows how paper thin our squad is.

I was pleased to see Jowett get a shot and to say he played with a broken hand for 50mins did himself credit, especially playing behind a beaten pack. His flat balls and cut out passes were the only creativity shown today.

Hallas needs to be discounted as a hooker option. Cameron Berry must be wondering what he has to do to get a shot. Time and time again, we play people out of position and it keeps backfiring.

I didn't go yesterday but the end result was quite predictable. At least Doyle will be back by the time we play Batley.

It'll be interesting to see how we utilise Keyes and Lilley. Keyes must be short of match practice.

Wasn't HAllas actually signed as a hooker and we moved him to loose forward?.

Wonder if we're going to get any news about whats actually happening to fix the pitch size?. Usual suspects on t'other forum are having a field day putting boot into Bulls over it, When AFAIK its the RFL responsibility to resolve it. Wood has openly said as much in an interview and RFL haven't said anything to the contrary which you would expect them to if it was our responsibility.

I thought we were better 2nd half when Jowett got involved and we created a bit of that shape that Brough brings. Oakes has to take that pass and score. Murphy and Oakes on the left edge gave the kid very little. Hamlett looked better than Brown. Those 2 chances were on the far side so hard to say. Has Hamlett been dropped twice after hammerings by Fev? I was in line with Hallas' pass to Walker and it looked flat.

Smith was the MOM by a bit but his back line and edge forwards gave him a lot more to work with. Whilst the lads up front had a real go, including Gallagher who was much improved, our back line moved in treacle.

Hallas is very much a stop gap hooker as it's been shown as far back as League 1 that he wasn't quick enough for it. Berry should be the option if Doyle is out but I believe Flanagan isn't far off returning after his lengthy ban is he?

I disagree with Murphy he ran some decent lines I thought

Back for batley

Well, that was pretty awful wasn't it.

I truly despair sometimes. If we can't defend down the middle on a postage stamp then let's hope no-one makes the pitch any wider or we'll get murdered. Our attack looked stunted for all the reasons - losing our main playmaker, narrow field and whatever anyone else can come up with but there is no excuse for the sloppy defence. No-one should be running through the middle on a pitch of that size. We made Widnes look like the "cup kings" of the seventies.

I'm not cribbing the effort. Just the application. I think I said before that we needed to get straight back on the horse after the Featherstone debacle, to be honest I think we needed to get over that earlier - we looked liked we were still suffering the hangover.

He took his time about it - fair enough we all see different things but he's rooted to the spot for Laughton's try.

Also agree with Bulliac. If Pickersgill can't defend better than he did for their first try, there's serious question marks about his future.

I think Kear quite likes Hallas at hooker for his work rate so no chance of Berry been given the nod ahead of him. He'll go with Doyle & Flanagan when both are fit, but then Hallas is clearly his third option.

The problem yesterday was that Hallas had to play for 80 minutes as well. We were crying out for some zip from dummy half in that game. Hallas distribution is far too slow for hooker, but him slogging it out for half an hour before giving him
a breather and giving Berry 20 minutes just to quicken things up would have improved our attack yesterday. As it is his slow distribution became even slower due to him having to play 80 minutes. Hindsight a wonderful thing though.

Widnes only used 15 players yesterday apparently, with the size of our pack and being able to use all 4 subs, it's a really poor result.

Yeah, I watched the highlights and his attempted tackle for the first try was absolutely pathetic

BTW, was there an attendance announced for Sunday? I wondered how attendances were shaping up after the Odsal return

Crowds have looked quite healthy from what I've seen so far but I wasn't there last weekend. The novelty factor of being back watching the game will dissipate amongst the more casual fans if performances suffer.

i think the only way to judge crowd interest is when finally covid restrictions are completely lifted ... i know it still must be hard over there and the times we are living in are bizarre to say the least .. (say that to the WWI or WW2 veterans, or the 1919 spanish flu) .. this thing im sure is still here to stay for a while (no matter what part of the world) ... ok less harp more poz

.. covid restrictions aside, 3k+ is still healthy

I think, with the number allowed seeming to be 4K, that appears to be the one being used, though I've not seen any figure actually announced for the last two games.

3153 against Widnes, not sure on Newcastle figure.

I've got a figure of 3300 for the Newcastle game, though with the club not seemingly having a policy of giving out the figure in match reports, I'm uncertain as to where I got it from - presumably the press, though the T&A haven't been announcing crowd figures either.

The 3153 figure for the Widnes game was quoted in League Express. That's probably where the Newcastle figure came from. The York one was quoted as a straight 4000 but i've not seen the actual figure.