So it wasn't right to punish a club for being run poorly and getting a £1m payout for your ground from the RFL? I think you've been well supported to keep the club afloat, just as my club were in the dark days, so to complain about having money taken off you doesn't seem right. Would you rather not have a ground to play at, or a team at all for that matter?

I think you are missing the point Scadge..

its not the fact the money has been taken away... its the fact its being shared between the other clubs!!

Talk about not knowing any facts before you put your size 10s in

Difference between the Bulls and your club is we didn't merge with anybody to get money to keep us going and then go it alone

And when you say punish a club, who exactly deserves to be punished?

The players? The fans? Omar Khan?

Also, it's not just having it halved that is the worst thing, why should every other club benefit from our 'punishment'. This is something Omar and GS never agreed to when they accepted the half sky money.

As I understand it the majority of clubs in SL are operating at a loss and the shortfall bankrolled by an individual (or group), wouldn't the cash be going directly into their pockets offsetting the amount needed to subsidise those clubs.

1. Who are you punishing? The blokes that ran the club into the ground are gone and got away scot free. Why punish the bloke who comes in and picks up the pieces? He had nothing to do with the mess before. Why punish the players and supporters? Is it their fault?

2. We don't owe the RFL any money. Whatever the deal was over the lease on the ground it has resulted in the current owners not owning the lease and the RFL getting an asset for which they were paid in full.
The whole shambles didn't put us off going into administration and the RFL have got an asset. I'd say they did better out of it than the Bulls have.

My Problem with all this is (apologies if anyone else has brought this up) is that , yes omar and gerry agreed to the two reductions in sky money to save the club.I don't think they were aware at the time that the second reduction would coincide with being in the same season as all the proposed changes.This is, I feel, the unfair element of all this.

Does anyone know who actually wrote the article in the League Express? Was it Sadler?

I think thats spot on. They grundgingly agreed to the loss of money (the other option being oblivion) whilst we were under the licencing arrangements, whereby as long as we could prove we were stabilising/developing the club it didnt matter too much where we finished in the league, we'd have aa good a chance as anyone else to gain a continuing licence, so if we were in the bottom two due to cutting our squad due to less money then that was an issue we could deal with over the short term and explain to the licencing commitee.

Now however, the goalposts have moved, and the second year of our punishment coincides with two spaces opening up on the trapdoor out of super league, but we're having to play to different rules than everyone else. Nice.

If they want to hold back one more season of half the sky money, well fine that was the deal, but why not defer that punishment to the 2015 or 2016 season which would be much less critical in terms of our future? Or at the very least dont give everyone else a foot up with our punishment money at the same time, put it into grass roots development or pay off some of the debts of the old company with it.

Ralph Rimmer????

Some people really are this thick aren't they?



What exactly has that got to do with this thread? I can't see anyone complaining about the points deduction on here can you?

In fact this actually encourages it tbh.



We didn't. They bought the ground and currently charge the bulls rent it.



The old club was this one has been hampered from day 1 by the other clubs



To compare taking the assets of one club and rebranding them as your own is not the same as buying and trying to turn round a failing sports club.



What a bizarre and unrelated thing to say.

He quit the stadium and Giants roles in Oct 2010 to take the RFL role.

Did he sell his shares in Hudders too?

Clubs run poorly should be punished, however i see your point about the wrong administration being punished. The problem is the same as in football. In any other walk of life, running a company into the ground and causing other loss of earnings etc would result in prossecution against those running the business. I don't see why this shouldn't happen in sport too.

I accept i just commented on this and didn't explain myself very well. What i was trying to get accross is that if i were you guys i would just be happy to have a team to watch after it could have all gone wrong.

Hands up for putting it accross in a moronic way!

Scadge when Hull swallowed up Gateshead Thunder, I would guess at that time the future was looking bleak for your team,would you of been happy for the RFL to take away half your Sky money and divide it between all the other clubs

Scadge please just give me a yes or no answer,not trying to get into an arguement

Bieng selfish; If it meant my team staying in existence i would have to take whatever way out was possible.

Everyone's overjoyed to have a club but we're living on the edge as proved by the wages debacle last week. Surely it's counter productive and unfair on the club employees and players to have to go through this uncertainty after last year? If we'd been given the fair share of money I suspect we'd not be in this position.

When was the decision made that we'd be on half sky money next year?

It can't have been when Omar took over because they only decided we were in next year half way through this season.

The next club that goes belly up I hope they get this same treatment because we weren't the first and we won't be the last club to get in trouble.

OK signed up for this for 2 years. The sharing of our money amongst the other clubs was the thing decided later IIRC.

OK has said himself that he's learnt from this episode to look after No1 if it happens to another club.

Oh aye, I mean where did I put that list of bankers that went to jail for recklessly doing in quadrillions, causing the entire world economy to collapse and ruining the life of millions? Oh yes, here it is:






End.

I agree wholeheartedly with the article in League Express and it proves that we do have support out there in the RL family. Unfortunately we also have some selfish and shortsighted clubs out there that we ought to be putting under pressure to reconsider their original decision.

It seems that Omar accepted the withholding of Sky money because without it I expect the majority of SL clubs would have gladly seen us booted out the competition. But he agreed to this penalty under the belief that we were in a licensing period. The goalposts have now been moved since the original decision so it should at the very least be reviewed.

All clubs should start on a level playing field in terms of central funding otherwise it is grossly unfair on the Bulls IMO. The decision to share out our pot of money between themselves was nothing short of immoral.

If it happens again next year then I will think seriously about boycotting away games in 2014. It's not something I'd like to do but I think it's about time the fans of this great club stood up and be counted on this important issue.

I've been thinking I wonder who in the first place thought up this ludicrous idea to share the Bulls Sky money out between all the other clubs. I'm probably same as every one else about this,it really gets me mad everytime I think about it. lets be honest we have never heard of anything like this ever before

We know the RFL are a pathetic organisation with no leadership,no backbone and simply no idea,was it them or a greedy club chairman

I think it's got to be another club,anyone know anything on this

Didn't they have a meeting and the vote was 8-5 in favour of sharing the sky money we forfeited, as opposed to putting it into grassroots???

Yes the vote was something like that but wonder who's idea it was in the first place