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| For this particular match I'd got with:
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Sheriffe
Sykes
Nero
Reardon
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
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Whitehead
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| Quote ="Bullseye"For this particular match I'd got with:
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Sheriffe
Sykes
Nero
Reardon
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
L'Strange
Scruton
Menzies
Whitehead
Langley
Crookes
Hall
Godwin
Kopczak'"
I'd have thought a mod would have gone on the original squad announced thread
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| Quote ="Bullseye"For this particular match I'd got with:
Halley
Sheriffe
Sykes
Nero
Reardon
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
L'Strange
Scruton
Menzies
Whitehead
Langley
Crookes
Hall
Godwin
Kopczak'"
Why no Donno?
Surley he'd be a better bench option than Crookes.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Why no Donno?
Surley he'd be a better bench option than Crookes.'"
I personally would go with Crookes on the bench over Donno, I think this is he season Crookes has got to really get some bulls game time under his belt and gie Macca some selection head aches.
We've seen what Crookes is capable off when he's been out on loan.........time for him to do it for the bulls
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| Sculthorpe injured already?
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Sculthorpe injured already?'"
Been injured a while. Not played in any pre-season games.
Welcome to two months ago.
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| It's a difficult choice but I thought we needed two props on the bench with Godwin and adding another forward left us a bit short if we need to shuffle the backs during the game.
Suppose you could move Menzies into the centres if necessary and have Donaldson on the bench instead of Crookes.
I'd go with that 18 and Worrincy would lose out for me. I'm not yet convinced his workrate is high enough.
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| I think we'll end up with one prop on the bench in Koppy (assuming he's fit) and Hall will probably spend some time there (probably after a stint on the bench after starting in the second row).
It would be Worrincy and Sheriffe to miss out for me, but I don't think that's likely. More likely to be Crookes and one of Donaldson or Whitehead (with the other on the bench).
1-13 will probably start I think.
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| If Reardon doesn't make it, i see it this way
Sykes
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Nero
Halley
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
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Hall
Langley
Menzies
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Kopzcak
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| I've not really been impressed with Crookes in the games he's played. Could see Whatuira having a field day with him.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"I've not really been impressed with Crookes in the games he's played. Could see Whatuira having a field day with him.'"
dont think theres any serious doubts over reardon being fit to play so cant see crookes being in with a serious chance of playing tbh
ps has someone explained quota rules to you yet b4c2010 or are you still insisting nero will count on quota next year
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| Quote ="mat"dont think theres any serious doubts over reardon being fit to play so cant see crookes being in with a serious chance of playing tbh
ps has someone explained quota rules to you yet b4c2010 or are you still insisting nero will count on quota next year
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I'm not sure when I insisted that.
The quota rules continue to confuse me unfortunatley though.
I do know that the O/S trained player limit drops from 6 to 5 next year though and with Kearney, Ox, Hall and Heathcliffe still under contract that leaves us one short of the limit and with 2 O/S trained players OOC(Nero and Beaver)
As far as I'm aware Nero counts as an overseas trained player given he was trained in Australia, so how does he suddenly become not overseas trained?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"I'm not sure when I insisted that.
The quota rules continue to confuse me unfortunatley though.
I do know that the O/S trained player limit drops from 6 to 5 next year though and with Kearney, Ox, Hall and Heathcliffe still under contract that leaves us one short of the limit and with 2 O/S trained players OOC(Nero and Beaver)
As far as I'm aware Nero counts as an overseas trained player given he was trained in Australia, so how does he suddenly become not overseas trained?'"
you seemed quite insistent on the t&a forum the other day
nero is a kolpak player who was playing in superleague before the new quota rules came in in feb 2007. as such when he signs his next contract he'll be re-classified as federation trained. same loophole that various clubs are using to get more than 6 overseas players this year.
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| Quote ="mat"you seemed quite insistent on the t&a forum the other day
nero is a kolpak player who was playing in superleague before the new quota rules came in in feb 2007. as such when he signs his next contract he'll be re-classified as federation trained. same loophole that various clubs are using to get more than 6 overseas players this year.'"
I didn't insist anything, I was speaking as I understood it. But as you've cleared that up then thanks.
So Nero isnt on the O/S quota this year, just the O/S trained quota?
The quota rules are a load of shat IMO, what's the point in having these rules to reduce overseas players and then making seperate rules so that after a few years they can become British trained players?
It's pointless.
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| you've got it right now. we have 5 overseas quota players ( menzies,hall,l'estrange,orford and kearney) + 1 non federation trained player ( nero).
next year we're allowed 5 overseas in total. all 5 can be overseas quota or we can have any combination of overseas quota + non fed trained as long as we dont go over 5 in total. we already have hall,l'estrange,orford and kearney signed up, so theoretically we could reatin menzies or bring 1 overseas player in to replace him. Nero, if we re-sign him, wont count on overseas allotment at all.
your right about this loophole being a bit stupid but once all the players who were playing in SL in 2007 have retired it will cease to exist so its only gonna be an issue for a couple of years ( and could potentially allow us to bring big les back in the meantime I think )
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| Quote ="RatedRKO"If Reardon doesn't make it, i see it this way
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Crookes
Nero
Halley
Kearney
Orford
Lynch
L'Estrange
Scruton
Hall
Langley
Menzies
Godwin
Kopzcak
Worrincy
Donaldson'"
Sykes at full back? No thanks, I'd sooner see Kearney at FB with Sykes at SO, he's not good enough in defence to play full-back.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Sculthorpe injured already?'"
Newton injured already?
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| I just cannot believe that Worrincy is still in the squad!!!!
Hopefully he will drop out.
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Quote ="mystic eddie"I just cannot believe that m e is still on this forum!!!!
Hopefully he will drop out.'"
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| From seeing your squad the bulls are very thin on the ground. Quite a weak bench compard to a lot of teams. A few injuries and you are in real trouble.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"From seeing your squad the bulls are very thin on the ground. Quite a weak bench compard to a lot of teams. A few injuries and you are in real trouble.'"
I hope that is the view of a lot of teams about us this year. There is no doubting we have less experienced players in our squad this year but I reckon the relative 'unknowns' like Whitehead and Donaldson will shock a few this year. In fact I reckon Donaldson will be our starting 13 by the end of the year, I am extremely excited about him and hope he continues improving.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I hope that is the view of a lot of teams about us this year. There is no doubting we have less experienced players in our squad this year but I reckon the relative 'unknowns' like Whitehead and Donaldson will shock a few this year. In fact I reckon Donaldson will be our starting 13 by the end of the year, I am extremely excited about him and hope he continues improving.'" I think the bench is key to winning games, I think you will struggle around the 20 and 60 minute mark in games, with a few injuries even more so. I just don't see any proven game brakers on your bench to swing things your way. As you say you have donaldson and a few other youngsters that are quite unknown and unproved who could be you game changing/winning introductions. can the players that dont make your 13 come on and change the game week to week? I'm in doubt but time will tell
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