This is becoming a complete shambles, I don’t think that mr charmers understands how to run a rugby club, let alone this one, so we postpone the announce time of the new coach because of a possibility of some snow for a week, so the new coach won’t be here till next week hence the players have no idea on what he wants from them, and the 8 days later we have our first hit up of the season, how many people do you anticipate been at that match I ask you mr charmers, because the way you are running this mess, I would say that I will get more Christmas cards than you will get people attending the game, I would like to wish you a happy Christmas mr charmers but I’m going to wait till Easter before I do so

I totally agree. I couldnt be more disappointed.

The club seem be lieing to everyone. Ok maybe im saying this abit early but it was said that shirt will be out for xmas purchase (could still happen). Was also said that the coach would of been appointed by end of today. (This could happen or has happened) and they are just keeping it a secret. For all we no is players may no who it is.

It will come out before they announce it, that I guarantee

The problem seems to be that whoever takes over the club seem to think that all the past is wiped clean and that they are taken on their own merits. Perhaps this SHOULD be the case but we have been stuffed up by various owners for the past god knows how many years. Ehat's the old saying: 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me'. The owners should realise that this means the management of the club as a whole and that not each new management gets two goes at fooling the public.

Even if they did, they used up their two a while back.

Lies, lies and more lies. But everyone stop moaning and give them your money. Come on cash machines, put your blinkers back on and hand over some more dollar.

I am tempted to toss a coin in the air for a extra £60 I have the choice of watching wakefield or castleford, and in all honesty I think wakefield have a outstanding chance of doing something this year looking at what the teams in super league have added to there squads

Bradford Bulls seems more remote from us the supporters and fans than ever before.I know who the aliens are though. Can only hope the lines of communication are more definitive to the players. C'mon Mr C don't offer excuses, don't fudge...just give us the reasons.........
you may have a crystal ball, we certainly haven't!

I think Cha-Low are inevitably suffering from the sins of earlier incarnations of the club, though since I'm sure they are well aware of recent history, they should have absolutely expected that. Previous managements have asked us to trust them and we've been let down. It may not be any great fault of theirs but, after all that has gone before, trust is only going to be given when it's earned and truth is that so far we're just getting the same old rhetoric as before.

At the end of the day it’s more broken promises, how the hell do they expect supporters to react, I honestly and truthfully wonder what is going off in there heads

Pretty much everything they do seems illogical to me! For instance, why announce (or perhaps not) a new coach the day AFTER season ticket early bird? Would you not try and announce it a few days before or extend the early bird to take advantage of any positive news that might shift a few more? And more frustrating is they still haven't come clean about what the walk up price will be, is it a secret or has somebody not had chance to pluck a random figure out the air yet? I'm still half expecting them to announce they are only opening the main stand next year despite selling tickets for terrace and seating... probably offering the main stand buyers a free coffee or something as compensation!!

From the outside it all seems very shambolic and gives me little confidence to believe the latest lot selected by the RFL are any better than the previous 'fit and proper' owners.

Giving them the benefit of the doubt I would say that their [plans changed drastically after Lowes illness. I think that what is going around in Chalmers head is to look for a way out.

Pretty depressing all round, not helped by looking out of the window and seeing that the promised snow never actually came!

As Bulliac said, the current owners are paying for the sins of the previous owners when it comes to 'trust'. That's not necessarily their fault, but they should have factored it in and made damn sure that they went the extra mile to keep good channels of communication with the long-suffering fans.

In fact, they've done the exact opposite! In place of the over-inflated promises of the last lot, we now get total silence. And when they do actually deign to tell us anything, it is increasingly coming across as made up on the hoof. This latest episode with the coach / shirts / season ticket presentation is just the latest episode in this sorry tale.

As I said on another thread, the name of new coach is bound to come out this week, meaning that the big reveal next Sunday will be a damp squib. I've no idea why the don't want to use the new coach as a spur to shift a few more season tickets, unless its going to end up being a big letdown and the new coach is going to end being Leigh Beattie or John Bastian.

I feel less invested in the club now than at any time since way back in the pre-SL era.

I think some one hit the nail on the head earlier when they said about charmers wanting out, as someone once said ( the truth is out there ) I think Andrew charmers should just come out and tell the good people of Bradford that he wants out, because he obviously doesn’t understand what Bradford Bulls means to Bradford Bulls supporters, either that or we boycott the club, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, do the right thing charmers, LEAVE

If they were any truth in that Chalmers wanted to sell club to Koukash, we may find out more next week as Koukash has tweeted transfer of ownership will be completed by end of next week.

I’m sure that will mean Salford to the trust. The problem is we have the same people supporting the owners as have been in the background supporting previous failed owners. It is not just the owner, he is taking advice and leaving things in the hands of people who have failed the running of the club time and again year after year. These people have a lot more influence than people want to believe and because of who they are get given a soft spot in people’s hearts. The new club was a perfect chance to rid the club of the whole management and give the new owner a new chance to bring his own trusted people in. But the reality is everything is entrusted with previous failure. This was guaranteed to happen

Very P&^*^D off why postpone just because you couldn't do the BIG unveiling BIG deal

Weather was the reason for postponement wasnt it?

Here's a thought for you

Coach was appointed Saturday or possibly earlier and is involved in training, unveiling was due for Sunday as it was a good PR day by doing it at ST day, weather put a hold on this until next Sunday but coach will be involved this week? Roger Daly has been quiet this week, does he know what's going on but doesn't want to say?

It just seems that AGAIN the club has dropped the ball.

The walk up price doesn't seem to have been decided. Surely you come up with a price at the same time you put your season tickets on sale and go "Buy a season ticket and save £x against the cost of walk up"
The Early Bird Deadline is the day BEFORE the club announces the new coach. Surely it's better to get in the best man for the job (which is what the club have said they were doing) and use his appointment to drum up some extra season ticket sales from hold outs.

I've been saying all along that the new owners seem to think that the fans will continue to show up regardless and while that may be the case, the number of fans will continue to dwindle while the club keeps on ignoring the fans.

I haven't bought a season ticket for 2018 and have no intention of doing so. I will wait until the club announces the walk up price and IF I deem it's value for money, I will attend games and pay on the gate.

Here's a thought for you

Coach was appointed Saturday or possibly earlier and is involved in training, unveiling was due for Sunday as it was a good PR day by doing it at ST day, weather put a hold on this until next Sunday but coach will be involved this week? Roger Daly has been quiet this week, does he know what's going on but doesn't want to say?

If the coach is in place and coaching the players we will again find out for some one other than the official lines, as a team. We are where we are for not been good enough, as a club, I can honestly say I know of clubs in lower divisions from us who are run better, where and what the is that Alwin gezzer or what ever his name is doing, because since his appointment I have heard nothing of him

Whilst I don't disagree with most of your point, it all boils down to Chalmers doesn't it? If what you are saying is accurate and he's the subject of poor advice, it's still him who hired these people and continues to listen to them.

It feels no different to previous owners. A man at the top who constantly fails to deliver on promises (albeit a much quieter one), surrounded by the same people.

Jeez, I didn't realise things were that bad!

Don't change your allegiance, it would be like selling your soul.

I know what your saying, but I watch super league on my tv, and I miss the atmosphere

Here's a thought. Apparently the RFL advised Chalmers to expect a 10% drop in season ticket uptake following relegation. Supposing that we set a price and the ST uptake is so bad that the club now has a problem that they will have to set the walk up price unreasonably high to make the ST seem worthwhile, they may be worried that no walk ups will be prepared to pay it.