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| No one started a Ganson thread yet. What's going on?
I'm not bagging him. I'm just bemused.
Can someone with more knowledge than me or who watched on Sky explain please:
1. Why was Addy sin binned?
2. Why was the second Cas player binned?
3. Why was a penalty given against Whitehead in first half about 10 metates from Cas line? It looked like Heth went over to ask and was told to go away.
4. What does the arm waved round in a circle signal mean?
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| I only know the answer to no.4 it's the ref telling the team no more chances, next offence is in the bin.
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| 1+2+3 Teams received a warning for repeat infringements signalled by the circular gesture by Ganson (he wasn't ordering a pie).
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| Quote ="phillgee"I only know the answer to no.4 it's the ref telling the team no more chances, next offence is in the bin.'"
Ah, I I'd wonder if that's what it meant. The second Cas player went after one of those.
Maybe even Addy too?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"1+2+3 Teams received a warning for repeat infringements signalled by the circular gesture by Ganson (he wasn't ordering a pie).'"
Mmmm, ok. What did Whitehead do though?
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| Quote ="debaser"Mmmm, ok. What did Whitehead do though?'"
I can't really remember the incident.
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| I'd say that I'd look at it all on the Sky replay.
But I sacked off Sky after Bulls Sky money was confiscated, so I can't.
On the "big" screen replay at the ground (the "big" screen being half the size it used to be?) it looked no different to the sort of thing that Deacs used to have to put up with every week once Big Joe was no longer there to stand guard. The officials never seemed to find much wrong with those challenges.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I can't really remember the incident.'"
I'm not even entirely sure it was Whitehead to be honest. If that helps.
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| And how did he miss THAT forward pass?
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| Ganson was bewildering tonight some strange penalties and some missed (forward pass)
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| Amazing how the vidref can whisper in Ganson's ear that he spotted a penalty that no-one else did (because it was not a penalty), and cost us the game,but a later vidref can't whisper that a pass was a mile forward?
Maybe the later vidref elected to follow the agreed rules?
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| Maybe the vid ref should not have comms with the whistle blower until requested
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| Whitehead was penalised for ball-stealing.
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| Scenario at the next Refs Meeting with the DoR
He to Gormless "WTF were you doing in that match and on TV?"
"Oh just the usual Boss!"
"Huh! Ok carry on!"
That was an extract from Carry on Regardless! (In the Film Sid James plays the DoR and Bernard Bresslaw plays Gormless)
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| Quote ="Adeybull"On the "big" screen replay at the ground (the "big" screen being half the size it used to be?).'"
So not the point I know, but in the interests of pedantry, the screens are the same size they have always been in the past decade or so.
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| 1. Why was Addy sin binned? - repeat infringements addy was just unlucky to be the next one
2. Why was thesecond Cas player binned? - same as above
3. Why was a penalty given against Whitehead in firsthalfabout10metates from Cas line? It looked likeHeth went over to ask and was told to go away. - interference heath went ove to try and slow the orb down I believe but ganson told him to get stuffed
4. What does thearm waved round in a circlesignal mean? - same as what everyone else has said
Also we got away with a lot of ball steals 3 I can remember ino cas got away with a forward pass, but at least ganson was consistant
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| Quote ="amberavenger"So not the point I know, but in the interests of pedantry, the screens are the same size they have always been in the past decade or so.'"
Disagree. It was the same width but noticeably shorter vertically. The old ones were pretty square but this was almost wide screen format. Pretty poor imo as the scoreline at the bottom covered so much of the play as to make it pointless for some of the replays.
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| One decision which baffled me was the disallowed try near the end which ended with a penalty to Cas.
Fair enough, the Bulls' player playing the ball went into and obstructed the Cas defender so the no try decision was correct, but two defenders, one either side of the ptb, were clearly standing with both feet in front of a line they should have had both feet behind, in fact almost in line with the acting halves, so were clearly off-side.
That was the first offence (as they were off-side before before our player obstructed the acting half) so surely the decision should have been - No try, penalty to the Bulls?
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| Quote ="broadybull87"1. Why was Addy sin binned? - repeat infringements addy was just unlucky to be the next one
2. Why was thesecond Cas player binned? - same as above
3. Why was a penalty given against Whitehead in firsthalfabout10metates from Cas line? It looked likeHeth went over to ask and was told to go away. - interference heath went ove to try and slow the orb down I believe but ganson told him to get stuffed
4. What does thearm waved round in a circlesignal mean? - same as what everyone else has said
Also we got away with a lot of ball steals 3 I can remember ino cas got away with a forward pass, but at least ganson was consistant'"
1. Yes, and a mile offside, it was nuts to take the risk, almost like he was tacking the mick.
2. Wasn't the second one binned for the blatant professional foul, that saved another great try? Spot on to sin bin that cheating get.
Every team "gets away" with plenty, it's the old argument, the ref can't penalise verything and if he did he would ruin th game. People were already whingeing around me in the last 15m of the 1st half that Ganson was "taking over the game" but how can people then come on here and whinge that there were, in effect, loads and loads of penalties that he failed to give??
I thought the officials had a reasonable game, and Ganson was good. He wasn't really given much choice in the team warnings and sin binnings, blame Bulls and blame Cas for playing dumb. Eg Lulia doing the "pull the leg" trick, as if the ref won't see it.
The forward pass was the worst decision of the night, don't know how the touchies especially missed that, but nobody's perfect and one howler in 80 minutes isn't bad.
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| Quote ="amberavenger"So not the point I know, but in the interests of pedantry, the screens are the same size they have always been in the past decade or so.'"
Maybe they were just further away....
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| Gansons been dropped to championship this week. reffing the keighley-swinton game. Thought he was a bit overboard with the sin binnings last week but didnt think he had that bad a match TBH.
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| Can't see what he did to deserve that? Unless he did not follow Rot Hall team orders in some way...?
Surely can't be Rot Hall feel fools because Mr. Ganson did not act against Scruton, Sky muppetry go apoplectic (their normal state anyway...) Rot Hall act instead, Rot Hall get egg on face when shown that Ganson was broadly right albeit maybe missed awarding a penalty (he made up for that in the next few minutes against us...) and Rot Hall look for someone to blame? No, that can't be how it is. Can it?
After some of the debacles we have seen from certain other officials, I can't see the justification for demoting him this week?
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| Well it was nothing to do with Scruton, as ultimately the lack of penalty wasn't Ganson's decision.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Well it was nothing to do with Scruton, as ultimately the lack of penalty wasn't Ganson's decision.'"
Only if they think he should have picked it up at the time (harsh). I'm all for letting unclear incidents flow & reviewing it during the week. I belive in Aussie rules they don't send anyone off & review all the following week.
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| Thought Silverwood would have been dropped as he had a shocker at the weekend. Although its slightly harsh on Ganson been dropped, it sends a message that the refs need to be on top of their game which is a good thing
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