After yesterdays game, I must say the atmosphere was the worst I have known.

I know its gone a bit quiet over the last few seasons but the handful of Celtic fans that made the trip managed to make more noise than 7,000 bulls fans! And that was when the game first kicked off before we knew how poor a perfromance the boys were to put in.

Its almost as if people are expecting a 'well below par' performance and are defeated bfore a ball is kicked in anger!

I think it's always going to be the case.

The priority for people isn't to sing. Lets face it we don't have any songs to sing anyway.
Most people that go, (I get the feeling) go to watch the game and discuss it as it unfolds. I know that's the case in our group of 10 or so.
That said I do shout, cheer, stand and clap if we look like scoring, again, as do most folk.

An atmosphere at a game builds as the action unfolds. If it becomes obvious that players can't be ar$ed then it's ultimately going to have the same effect on the fans.

and maybe running out before your home support to apathy doesn't gee the players up.

It takes something to happen on the pitch to get the crowd going, yesterday there wasn't much to enthuse about until the side started playing with some urgency in the last 15mins. Funnily enough that was when the crowd started getting going too.

If the side come out looking like they're really up for it then the crowd will get behind them as was proved at home to Leeds.

At away games we tend to be more vocal as there is more of a siege mentality and people are stood together as one group. There are a lot fewer gloom mongers at away games too!

What a load of tosh the players are professional sportsman if the need the crowd to gee them up then something is very wrong at the club.

It's not the players fault then it's mine. I thought they should have tried to get all the spectators geed up, especially those that had turned out, payed hard earned money to get in and then stood there p1ssed wet through. I think next match we should all get down on our knees and beg the players forgiveness for being so sulky.

I take your point, but professional or not, getting booed v's cheered is going to have an effect on you.

The worrying thing is that people couldn't even be bothered to boo yesterday. The players must have wondered what was happening. They trudged off to silence whilst the people on the popular side stayed to applaud Celtic off.

Is it?
Or have people just accepted where we are for the short term.

Disappointing? Yes.
I do see the ship starting to be steered in the right direction though, if not immediately obvious with on field performances.

Will I stop going? No.
Which I think is the case for the majority there yesterday

Booing or not booing has nothing at all to with he original point. That was bout the fans having to make noise to gee up the players which is bull-s-hit.

In my opinion i do see no point the band being in the main stand, they play around 2 times per game, if were losing which we have being doing alot this season they have no intrest what so ever, i thought the band was to motivate/get behind players, however they are non existent when we are in diffucult times, same old boring songs, something needs to be done before i begin to fall asleep at games. Rhinos, Wigan, Warrington for example do have bands and get behind there team and be loyal, booing and silence wont get us any were !

I've said it before, but we need a group of fans to get together like the [url=http://www.twe12thman.co.uk/Twe12th Man[/url at Middlesbrough FC if fans are that bothered about their being a lack of atmosphere in the ground. Improving the atmosphere in the ground is something that has to come from the fans themselves.

'Mon the Bulls!

I always thought that it might help if there was a specified singing section of ground on the pop side that was defined so that those most vocal supporters could stand together.

Agreed, the atmosphere comes from the fans, expecting the players to do all the work to get the crowd going is a bit too much. IMO the atmosphere will never improve significantly until we have a ground with a roof all the way round it. People will catch on to it eventually if theres a catchy tune and people looke like they're having fun. I used to rubbish the chances of anybody wanting to join in with the Dale Cavese at city, as it happens people seem more inclined to join in with it than the 'traditional' chants.

Any body wanting to start one, as i think a lot would be very intrested.

well if they started consistantly putting in the performances they're capable of, perhaps people would have something to cheer about instead of feeling betrayed and insulted by jokers on the field who dare call themselves players.

we've beaten leeds and saints this year, so it's not a lack of talent thats the problem. it's a lack of motivation. and tbh who can blame the players? if i knew i'd get paid my full wage regardless of how badly i performed my job, then i'd do the same as them

Singing or non-singing Sir?

What happens if you get carried away in a non-singing seat and start a song?

Who's going to Salford? We should start the match by making as much noise as possible in the first ten minutes, if we play well we'll continue, if not we'll stop.

I'll be there, ready to sing from the off. If the performance warrants it, I'll carry on for the match.

Was thinking of something along these lines but being out of the country till October and perhaps longer I thought I'd hold my fire. Seeing as other people seem interested, here are my thoughts. Quote Spirit of ’64: The Audibles Aim: to encourage vocal, positive support of the Bulls at home and away games. We all want games to be as enjoyable for Bulls fans as possible. Obviously the players on the field have the biggest role to play in this, but fans can also contribute. Due to the layout of Odsal and the demographics of our support base, Bradford’s support has picked up a reputation for being quiet. This can be changed, through simple supporter actions: [list[*Sharing chants online, using RedAmberandBlack (see viewtopic.php?t=399174), email lists, Facebook, Twitter.[/*:m [*These songs could also be printed off and distributed at/on the way to games, and potentially printed in the programme/T&A.[/*:m [*Establish a singers’ group, to be called ‘The Audibles’:[/*:m [*Encourage fans who wish to sing to stand/sit together at games[/*:m [*Produce amber/yellow (brightest of the club’s colours) t shirts so fellow members can be easily identified. Something like this. [/*:m [*Use one of the T shirts and a broomstick to construct a Roman Empire-style ‘standard’ so as to help create a focal point on the terraces. Bit like the chap on the right is holding here (spearhead optional). [/*:m [*Encourage the club to adopt the songs used as a basis for the chants as the music used for each respective player, e.g the Top Cat theme for Craig Kopczak[/*:m [*Get behind players that are getting a hard time from opposition or Bulls supporters[/*:m[/list:u'"

Was thinking of something along these lines but being out of the country till October and perhaps longer I thought I'd hold my fire. Seeing as other people seem interested, here are my thoughts. Quote Spirit of ’64: The Audibles Aim: to encourage vocal, positive support of the Bulls at home and away games. We all want games to be as enjoyable for Bulls fans as possible. Obviously the players on the field have the biggest role to play in this, but fans can also contribute. Due to the layout of Odsal and the demographics of our support base, Bradford’s support has picked up a reputation for being quiet. This can be changed, through simple supporter actions: [list[*Sharing chants online, using RedAmberandBlack (see viewtopic.php?t=399174), email lists, Facebook, Twitter.[/*:m [*These songs could also be printed off and distributed at/on the way to games, and potentially printed in the programme/T&A.[/*:m [*Establish a singers’ group, to be called ‘The Audibles’:[/*:m [*Encourage fans who wish to sing to stand/sit together at games[/*:m [*Produce amber/yellow (brightest of the club’s colours) t shirts so fellow members can be easily identified. Something like this. [/*:m [*Use one of the T shirts and a broomstick to construct a Roman Empire-style ‘standard’ so as to help create a focal point on the terraces. Bit like the chap on the right is holding here (spearhead optional). [/*:m [*Encourage the club to adopt the songs used as a basis for the chants as the music used for each respective player, e.g the Top Cat theme for Craig Kopczak[/*:m [*Get behind players that are getting a hard time from opposition or Bulls supporters[/*:m[/list:u'"

Isn't there still an [iunofficial [/izone - behind the tunnel and up towards the back of the terrace?

Not really.

Surely Audibulls?!

If so why dont we meet there then

, however unfortunatly i can't make salford, ive got a party but shall be there next game