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| Reported in Hull Daily Mail Ryan Shaw on point of reaching contract with Hull KR . Great shame to loose him.
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| Is he any good? Seem to remember him struggling a little with our kicking game at your place in the challenge cup
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| Quote ="Oafy"Is he any good? Seem to remember him struggling a little with our kicking game at your place in the challenge cup'"
CC was apparently impressed with him in that match.
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| Would it be fair to say his goal kicking is the best part of his game, which is actually very good
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| He played reasonably well at full back, improved as the season went on and kicked goals for fun.
He was awful on the wing but in truth I couldn't tell you why Clare and Mendeika are in front of him for the FB shirt.
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| Shaw has looked decentto me, if raw, and defending naively at times. Just the sort of player I'd be looking to keep as I reckon he's got a lot of potential, and can kick too. Says a lot when a decent SL side with plenty of existing pace sees it, but we don't. But then, if you look in our wardrobe (where they must surely be, as they're never seen) you'll find a dozen players that we've signed but then presumably dual registered with Narnia, never to return.
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| With the long term deals of Mendieka and Claire along with the new deal for Caro, it was Lways on the cards that any back only on a 1 year deal might not be here next year. Shaw is still young and with time to work on the faults in his game he could become a decent full back
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| This might sound harsh, but I think the championship is his level.
He's a fantastic goal kicker, but his actual on field play isn't really up to scratch. He's not great defensively and is terrible on the wing positionally.
I'm also not convinced he fully knows the rules of the sport - on more than one occasion towards the back end of the season he gave away scrum feeds within our own 10 by putting his foot in touch when gathering a kick. I can only assume he thought the rule regarding doing this on the dead ball line applied to the touchline as well.
I think Clare is a better (makeshift) fullback, but not Mendieka. I think if Mendieka comes into our side at all, it should be at centre and not fullback.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"He played reasonably well at full back, improved as the season went on and kicked goals for fun.
He was awful on the wing but in truth I couldn't tell you why Clare and Mendeika are in front of him for the FB shirt.'"
I'd have Clare ahead of him everyday of the week. Some of the things Clare did against Salford, Shaw isn't good enough to do. Setting up Williams try, intercepting when Salford had a 2 on 1, and then the try saving tackle right at the end. Ryan Shaw wouldn't have been able to do any of them. He's a solid player who can do a decent job across the back line. Given choice i would keep him, but he's certainly not worth spending big on.
Someone asked why an SL side rate him and we don't? KR have an extra £800k to spend than us. We have to be more careful with our money. KR could spend £70k on him, he could flop, but they still have £1.7millon worth of talent to choose from. We spend £70k, that's nearly a tenth of our SC gone.
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| Ryan is a great goal-kicker but hasn't been good enough defensively even at Championship level. Perhaps Rovers will correct that but we simply can't afford the cap space if he doesn't improve that much, whereas they can.
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| To be fair he is a good young talent,
However if Hull want him sell him on at a profit, by a better starting full back and move forward..
If we make money of the back of the deal its good business,
Don't however sell him and don't replace him or sell him and replace with some utter garbage in true bulls fashion.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"I'd have Clare ahead of him everyday of the week. Some of the things Clare did against Salford, Shaw isn't good enough to do. Setting up Williams try, intercepting when Salford had a 2 on 1, and then the try saving tackle right at the end. Ryan Shaw wouldn't have been able to do any of them. He's a solid player who can do a decent job across the back line. Given choice i would keep him, but he's certainly not worth spending big on.
Someone asked why an SL side rate him and we don't? KR have an extra £800k to spend than us. We have to be more careful with our money. KR could spend £70k on him, he could flop, but they still have £1.7millon worth of talent to choose from. We spend £70k, that's nearly a tenth of our SC gone.'"
A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday'"
I point you to the rest of our crazy coaching decisions this year, he had a stinker at Widnes so was dropped due to that im hazarding a guess at but Mendeika was 10x worse against HKR dont think he caught a ball all game.
Shaw did seem to do ok in the air, but clares and mendeikas support play is alot better than his.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie":32079x6dA lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday'" why he was the sacrificial lamb and why Mendeika replaced him is something only he can answer.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Best ask Jimmy on that one. Clare had a poor game against Widnes [along with everyone else why he was the sacrificial lamb and why Mendeika replaced him is something only he can answer.'"
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| From what I've seen Mendieka is the better prospect but both could benefit from time with a good backs coach. I suspect Shaw will progress further if Rovers have the necessary coaching facility.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Shaw has looked decentto me, if raw, and defending naively at times. Just the sort of player I'd be looking to keep as I reckon he's got a lot of potential, and can kick too. Says a lot when a decent SL side with plenty of existing pace sees it, but we don't. But then, if you look in our wardrobe (where they must surely be, as they're never seen) you'll find a dozen players that we've signed but then presumably dual registered with Narnia, never to return.'"
Agree with your comments. Ryan is still young and many good players dont mature until their mid twenties. Admitted this lack of an open age Reserve Grade has caused many problems with holding on to players, but hopefully this may be resolved by some of the top SL Clubs, who have recognised this failing and want to set the future on a better footing
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| I don't think KR would pay him anywhere near £70k. I guess he is on no more than £30k with us having 32 players all under £900k He is unproven but promising. I agree about Clare being the better one to keep. On paper we have Mullaney, Clare and Mendieka at full back so can let him go. It would be a shame though but money will do the talking again this off season.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"A lot on here seem to rate Clare so why wasn't he playing on Saturday'"
He was either dropped or couldn't stop dropping as there was talk about a bug that went round the camp.
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| Quote ="bowlinboy"To be fair he is a good young talent,
However if Hull want him sell him on at a profit, by a better starting full back and move forward..
If we make money of the back of the deal its good business,
Don't however sell him and don't replace him or sell him and replace with some utter garbage in true bulls fashion.'"
Sell him at a profit? He's not a bloody car mate, it doesn't work like that
Ryan is out of contract at the end of the season, no fee will be paid to the Bulls - he'll just leave.
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| This has the look of the Shad Royston's about it.
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| Quote ="redeverready"This has the look of the Shad Royston's about it.'"
Big fish, small pond sort of thing you mean?
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Big fish, small pond sort of thing you mean?'" Yep
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| Well Shaw is in the 19 for Saturday. Maybe he's not played his last game for the club?
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| Quote ="Nothus"This might sound harsh, but I think the championship is his level.
He's a fantastic goal kicker, but his actual on field play isn't really up to scratch. He's not great defensively and is terrible on the wing positionally.
I'm also not convinced he fully knows the rules of the sport - on more than one occasion towards the back end of the season he gave away scrum feeds within our own 10 by putting his foot in touch when gathering a kick. I can only assume he thought the rule regarding doing this on the dead ball line applied to the touchline as well.
I think Clare is a better (makeshift) fullback, but not Mendieka. I think if Mendieka comes into our side at all, it should be at centre and not fullback.'"
Rubbish. Clare was appalling at Wakefield and one of the main reasons why we got hammered.
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