Can't help but agree with you ... the motivation of the team as a whole and players individually, the passion, commitment, strategies (attack & defence) come from FC and his coaching team.

The players now have a good deal of certainty and stability in terms of income ... they need to take a good long look in the mirror and decide whether they want to play Super League Rugby or not, if they decide they can't be really that bothered there is a door to walk through.

Fully get that the players and coaching team have been through a hell of a lot of s**t but there must come a time to dust yourself down, move on in your mind and make things happen on the pitch.

If we are picking matches to 'not really be bothered' last nights was not the night, the derby against our nearest and dearest rivals means so much to the fans and to see the players capitulate in the spiritless, passionless way hurt a lot of the fans around where I stood with my family.

Coaching team and players ... take a good look in the mirror and decide what you want out of life!

You will see plenty Mongrel next season in the Championship .

...stood with their owners at the side of the pitch.

Jimmy Lowes - must be bored to death in RU.

It's not the same. Brian Mac & Anderson played to the limits of their talents, they ran as fast as they could, putting their bodies on the line. Which is different to my reservations about Cummins as a player. I played under numerous coaches, some you would give more for.

It comers down to basic man management to me TT, and yes, I agree there are managers you would 'pull out all the stops for', and probably some you maybe wouldn't do the 'extra mile' for.

I used to work in a place that would promote managers from the shop floor, and the general opinion amongst the 'troops' was that it was [i:s9kcmg40always[/i who got promoted. However, whilst that was occasionally thrown back at the manager when they asked for 'extra' effort, usually, the better man managers could, using only their personality, take the shop floor with them.

So, it depends much more on Cummins' management skills in his own particular work area, and this ability is of more importance in taking the players with him than how he played the game, imo.