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| Take a bow son. Utterly superb. With Mose carrying several knocks and Vea off injured he stood up superbly well. Outstanding tonight.
Shame about Vea. From the look of his body language in the sheds, it's another few months of rehab for him. Massive shame as he was going well tonight as well.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Take a bow son. Utterly superb. With Mose carrying several knocks and Vea off injured he stood up superbly well. Outstanding tonight.
Shame about Vea. From the look of his body language in the sheds, it's another few months of rehab for him. Massive shame as he was going well tonight as well.'"
From were I sat it looked like his knee?
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| We have one of the best talents in world rugby who we nearly lost because we fu@ked about. Yet we're constantly re-taining the deadwood and shopping at Aldi.
Whoever is in charge of player recruitment needs sacking imo
Andre Savelio was something special tonight.
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| Great performance.I thought after an hour he was almost single handedly gonna pull you over the line.Thankfully we just had enough, but now i can understand the hype.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Take a bow son. Utterly superb. With Mose carrying several knocks and Vea off injured he stood up superbly well. Outstanding tonight.
Shame about Vea. From the look of his body language in the sheds, it's another few months of rehab for him. Massive shame as he was going well tonight as well.'"
Sav was pure class. He's standing up in the big games now. His best performances have been agsinst leeds (few times), Wigan and Warrington.
He's got a big future in the game.
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| Savelio was unreal tonight. Absolutely superb.
Vea's knee didn't look good at all on the replay on the screen.
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| He's already better than Greenwood IMO. He's probably better than most of the back rowers in SL, although at the moment, it is a weak position.
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| Bullet dodged
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Bullet dodged'"
But you're not [ibitter[/i.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"He's already better than Greenwood IMO. He's probably better than most of the back rowers in SL, although at the moment, it is a weak position.'"
I'd bear in mind that Savelio has the kind of physique which is a [ivery rare[/i commodity in RL before making comparisons in haste. Even though I think Sav played brilliantly tonight, Greenwood has been superb all season (when fit). Yes, he makes a few mistakes. But most players do at that age.
The important thing to remember about Greenwood is he's already huge. And he'll carry on growing. Moreover, there are few forwards ANY AGE in SL who are as dangerous close to the line as he is.
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| Seeing Savelio absolutely man handle Delaney and shrug him off was unbelievable for a 19/20year old kid. He's going to be HUGE.
Not a coincidence that our best period in the game was when he was on the pitch. He came off, we knocked on and then Leeds took control again.
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| Rhinos fan here, I thought he was brilliant. Almost impossible to get down.
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| His top potential was always plain to see, not sure if that was the club's thought at one time, Andre & Louis are real talent in the pack at present.
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| Louis played really well, just a shame he tried to double move and drop the ball rather than take the tackle.
As that was a little blot on his copy book.
Sav was great, in fact most of the pack played well. Mose was handled a little too easily for me by the Leeds pack. He needed to have a big game.
The backs lacked against their leeds counter parts and I thought Turner needed to come in field a bit more to help clear our 20 when the forwards where out on their feet. But given all that, we where still in the game with 20 to go.
Certainly an improvement on were we where only a month or two ago.
Hope Vea is not too serious.
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| I think it's desperately unfair to heap the blame on Saints backs. Aside from Dawson, who really is little more than a lower-league player it seems, I had very little issue with any of our backs. I thought Swifty took the ball well under pressure and made very useful yards. Percy scored two belters and on the opposite side Turner too was breaking tackles. Our fullback fashioned a try out of thin air.
The problem is we currently have no link whatsoever between forwards and backs. It doesn't help that we have no traditional loose forward and it really hurt when Vea limped off the field because he was making yards for fun.
At the risk of over-stressing the point - take Walsh and Dawson out and replace them with Wilkin and Tommy Mak and I'm as confident as anyone.
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| Turner doesn't want to know against Watkins - really frustrating as in general he has had a good season.
His so called mis-read for Leeds last try was shocking - there wasn't even any dummy runners or anything- he just 100% didn't want to deal with Watkins.
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| Quote ="yogi bear"Turner doesn't want to know against Watkins - really frustrating as in general he has had a good season.
His so called mis-read for Leeds last try was shocking - there wasn't even any dummy runners or anything- he just 100% didn't want to deal with Watkins.'"
Whoa! You can't bash Turner for missing one on Watkins when he stopped AT LEAST two tries scrambling in the backfield.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Whoa! You can't bash Turner for missing one on Watkins when he stopped AT LEAST two tries scrambling in the backfield.'"
Turner is all sword and no shield unfortunately. Brilliant strike player but he has got to work on his defence.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"Turner is all sword and no shield unfortunately. Brilliant strike player but he has got to work on his defence.'"
Move him to lock then? He's alright with bigger men in defence (and hardly small himself) and can still move wider when needed to strike in attack, and a decent pair of hands as shown last year. A spine of Walsh Burns and Turner frees up the fullback to play a more old style role roaming and prodding at gaps. Also means re-signing Dawson would make a lot more sense on top of SMD and Peryoux
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| Quote ="Twentyman"Turner is all sword and no shield unfortunately.'"
Turner saved two tries against Leeds. He saved the game against Warrington. I'm not suggesting he's the greatest defender since Gary Connolly - but he's nowhere near as bad as many in here suggest.
Saints' defensive strategy often leaves Turner in a very difficult position. With so many guys brought in tight he's forced into making 50-50 judgement calls which look great when they come off and terrible when they don't. But we must not lose sight of the fact that overall our defence has been FAR STRONGER this season than our attack. I've lost count of the number of games in which we've scrambled heroically three or four times to scrape out a tight result.
Part of the reason we have defended so well is precisely because we are prepared to give up one or two tries out wide if it means we close up the midfield.
I think Percival is as good a defender as anyone in the league (that quasi-judo throw he's recently perfected whereby he attacks the far shoulder with both hands and pivots the runner over his centre of gravity is an incredibly difficult skill to master). But switch him with Turner and I guarantee he'll miss more tackles than he does on his current side.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Move him to lock then? He's alright with bigger men in defence (and hardly small himself) and can still move wider when needed to strike in attack, and a decent pair of hands as shown last year. A spine of Walsh Burns and Turner frees up the fullback to play a more old style role roaming and prodding at gaps. Also means re-signing Dawson would make a lot more sense on top of SMD and Peryoux'"
I'd agree with that. He's played at 6 before and they're not too dissimilar positions. Maybe with the signing of Peryoux (for centre) they might be considering doing that next season?
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| Quote ="Twentyman"I'd agree with that. He's played at 6 before and they're not too dissimilar positions. Maybe with the signing of Peryoux (for centre) they might be considering doing that next season?'"
Id leave Turner centre as he does offer a little bit of strike power if he gets decent ball (very very rare tho) and we don't even know what Peyroux has to offer. He's not playing first grade and at 26 he's only played 38 games in 5 seasons which is hardly any games.
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| Savelio came of age on Friday night. If he isn't playing week in, week out now then questions need to be asked.
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