www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4879 SAINTS have named their 19-man squad for Friday's First Utility Super League Round Eleven clash with Leeds Rhinos. Josh Jones is recalled to the 'roster' alongside academy product and first team member Matty Fleming. Keiron Cunningham will select his 17 from: 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 25. Andre Savelio, 28. Jack Ashworth, 29. Olly Davies, 30. Matty Fleming. The game kicks off at 8pm and the referee will be Ben Thaler.

www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/4879 SAINTS have named their 19-man squad for Friday's First Utility Super League Round Eleven clash with Leeds Rhinos. Josh Jones is recalled to the 'roster' alongside academy product and first team member Matty Fleming. Keiron Cunningham will select his 17 from: 2. Tommy Makinson, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 25. Andre Savelio, 28. Jack Ashworth, 29. Olly Davies, 30. Matty Fleming. The game kicks off at 8pm and the referee will be Ben Thaler.

Umm lance? Fleming is a winger isn't he?

Makinson
Fleming Turner Jones Swift
Burns Wilkin
Amor Roby Walmsley
LMS Flanagan
Thompson

Walsh Savelio Richards Masoe

Fleming is a centre normally I think mate. Presumably he could fill in at wing though.

Happy we have got Thaler, thought it might have been Silverdud.

Leeds 19

1. Zak Hardaker
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
6. Danny McGuire
7. Rob Burrow
9. Paul Aiton
10. Jamie Peacock
12. Carl Ablett
13. Kevin Sinfield
14. Stevie Ward
15. Brett Delaney
16. Mitch Achurch
17. Adam Cuthbertson
18. Liam Sutcliffe
19. Brad Singleton
20. Jimmy Keinhorst
22. Andy Yates
26. Ashton Golding
27. Ash Handley

I'm all for an Ajax approach at times.

Ashworth Second Row as Centre
Fleming Centre as wing

However a radical thought - Why don't we play wingers on the wing and centres as centres.

Maybe the wingers in the academy can't be trusted whereas Fleming can be. We saw how raw and vulnerable Ricky Bailey looked v Hull. Perhaps the coaches "trust" Fleming a bit more?

Why didn't Fleming play against hull ?

Bailey is a FB though, isn't he? Not a winger.

Don't know mate. I was just giving a possible explanation. I know they shifted him from centre to wing the 19's last week. Maybe they wanted to see him play there first?

He is. Just making the point about young lads not being ready. Maybe the young wingers aren't ready.

Lance dropped or injured?

Probably dropped. He was garbage last week.

So was others but it's always lance and jones dropped. No wonder they want out.

Dissapointed if he is dropped has good utility value and is worth a first 17 spot. Would sooner Makinson stay on the wing and chance Lance some more time to get familiar with his old fullback position.
Don,t think its the right time to bring in a young rookie player in the backline for this game, also any injuries there and we end up with LMS in the centres again.

I'd imagine KC thinking it would be easier to blood a rookie against Leeds with Hall and Briscoe both missing.

Easy targets. With KC if your on the outside I think your pretty much done. I've been baffled a few times this season with Lance's omissions and Jones's . It seems like it's ok to play kids in the outside backs but he'd rather play players in the halves who are fundamentally lacking the core skills to do so than give a kid a go.

Champion teams are first and foremost - teams. We can talk all day about skilful players, tactics, overall strategies etc. - none of this means a great deal if you aren't functioning as a tightly-knit and cohesive unit. Individualism is encouraged - but not at the expense of the overall harmony of the group.

If Lance and/or Jones are "problem players" (and we really have no idea whether they are are not) then it shouldn't come as any surprise that the coach would prefer to risk a junior with the "right attitude" than run the even greater risk of allowing potentially divisive players the opportunity to spread disharmony through action or talk.

More than perhaps any club in SL, Saints have worked incredibly hard to foster the "Right Attitude". McManus calls it the "St. Helens Way". They are absolutely right to do so because once disharmony sets in at a club it is finished as a champion outfit. Very often it can take years to overcome the damage which can be wrought by just one or two players who aren't in sync with the message.

Both great lads and great pros.

What about their agents?

Not sure on lance agent but by all accounts I beleive jones has done great job for his player.

Lance an easy target? Absolutely, because his performances make it very easy to target him.

If your performances leave the fans (and no doubt the coaching staff) wondering whether a young lad from the academy could do any worse, don't be surprised when you lose your place to a young lad from the academy.

We lose nothing with Lance out of the team, he is the invisible man.

Apart from about 40 invisible tackles when he plays as rotation 9 which tbh is his best role in our current squad given we seem to have 0 depth in the hooking department. On the other bloke , Jones got mom one week then was dropped entirely the next by KC .. if that isn't weird way of coaching I don't know what is. If I got mom then dropped the next when I was playing I'd have been looking for a new club too.

Think thats a bit harsh, seem to remember the last time we played Leeds he was the match winner, the last time he played in the grand final he was the "match winner".
When we play badly he is always cherry picked by the fans as the scape goat, you can doubt his creativity but in most games not his effort.

Anyone know anything about the new name on the squad sheet - Davies? I'm sure Rogues will know something.