superleague.co.uk/report/11107 many, many tackles think both teams will be very sore this morning. Amor not his usual self? Walmesley a machine, Roby tackles everything quite a few missed tackles but the lads must have been shattered

superleague.co.uk/report/11107 many, many tackles think both teams will be very sore this morning. Amor not his usual self? Walmesley a machine, Roby tackles everything quite a few missed tackles but the lads must have been shattered

They battered Amor. He was dominated several times. looked small yesterday to me as well.

I see turner Kept his missed tackles up even when he's not playing on the edges.

Wigan definitely targetted Amor. He will be very sore this morning. As I have said on the Wigan board, both sides can take huge positives from that game yesterday. It would have been a saints win for me if you had Burns/Walsh on the field. Hopefully the meeting at LP both sides will have near full strength squads available.

They're calling Tony Clubb's 33 metres an 'incredible performance' on their board. Walmsley made four times as many metres as Clubb and they're having a party. You've got to laugh



Wigan were highly fortunate. They should be hugely concerned that a Saints team without a single half pushed them so close. They don't even have the excuse of being a man down this time. A Saints team with Burns and Walsh on the field would brush them aside with ease. Put Wilkin at scrum half in yesterday's team and we win the game.

They had nearly 2 sets more in possession and an 8-2 penalty count in their favour and managed to score 12 points from a charge down and a kick and gained 22 more metres. Good luck with that Wigan, see you later in the season

Hate to say it but I agree with you!

I've said on the pies board, I'm shocked they couldn't open is up with the disruption we had during the game with the likes of Lms in the centre.

Stick one of burns, walsh or Wilkin into the team and I think we win. Put all 3 in and we win comfortable.

Sorry mate, I've just edited that post a bit whilst you were responding. They had more possession and an 8-2 penalty count in their favour as well !

I don't know what game they watched but I'd be writing Wigan's season off based on yesterday. They've no hope of beating a Saints team that's anything like fit. None.

Sol will make a huge difference for them if they can get him on the field. He can single handed take teams apart like last good friday.

However, they miss Blake Green badly. Matty Smith looks like the half we let go without a good 6 with him.

It's a long old season. I'm pretty sure Wigan fans were saying the same about Saints after Good Friday last year and look what happened...

The only question I have with those stats was :-

Where we really 4 times worse than Wigan for head shots, tackles etc on that penalty count ratio.

I think the ones given against us were generally fair.
Wigan weren't head hunters and didn't engage in cheap shots.
Farrell was lying up a bit but I seen much worse previously.

One thing that bugs me is when Saints trap a side on their line.

Everyone goes into overdrive with the horrible predictability
of getting pinged on tackle one or two and the pressure is off.

Yes the team trapped look to milk a penalty , yes Refs are looking to give a penalty
but it is avoidable.

Don't fly out of marker, the rest of the line take one pace back and come from behind the mark the refs gives.
Still go for linespeed and put pressure on.
It makes it difficult for the ref to give the penalty and keeps the pressure on the defending team.

As soon as Hampshire was tackled just in the field of play.
I said tackle one or two penalty to Wigan. Volia.
Keep seeing it time and time again.

Small thing that is really avoidable.

I think Amor has been a little bit subdued this season. He's not quite been the force he was before his injury last season. He still gets through a ton of work, though.

I've noticed that myself. Doesn't seem to have that little footwork he had last year which got him on front foot rather than size and power.

I don't think he's the biggest of props tbh and that's why I wanted another prop brought in to do the extra mins with Amor.

Maybe he's carrying an injury? Seems jaded since his suspension

Amor made one outright error in the game. He took a few hits. But there was no prop hitting or running harder with ten minutes remaining.

He played very well against Hull KR, too.

Don't tell me, he's the best prop in world?

Seriously, WHAT is your problem?

This is Pete's playground, or at least he thinks it is. Anybody that mildly disagrees with anything he says gets a mouthful or called Wayne Bennett. You'll get used to it.

On Amor. It says all you need to know about him that even when not in the greatest of form, he's averaging over 90m every week. Clubb apparently put in an incredible performance with 30m yesterday. I don't think Amor is fully fit, he's also playing in the shadow of Walmsley, who has kicked on bucket loads into the top level of world props this season, but he's still a hell of a prop. His workload is brilliant.

You and you know why

Cry me a river.

Amor is doing OK, I reckon we will notice this more when he doesn,t actually play in the game. Our pack has been working very hard in the past 4 weeks with the injury dissruption, we've not been able to make a lot of ground with kicks, most of the forwards have done "hard yards" mostly so with Amor.
Once we get a full squad operating KC may give Amor less match minutes to get his energy levels up, similarly we need to monitor Walmsley carefully and manage him correctly.

I really don't see any issue with any of the forwards. They've done their job. Both going forward and in defence.

I mean, you can't churn out 200 yard games every game.

And let's not forget that this is the start of the season.

Our problems are purely a result of diminishing attacking strength from 1-7.

Comedy gold

Why pick on Turner? Josh Jones missed SIX tackles and only made 18. That was a worse ratio than Turner and maybe explains why Jones isn't played as often as we would like.

To be honest, I thought Jones played well, too. Always hits hard in the tackle and his footwork usual gives him a break or two.

I'd like to see him spelled in the back row or at lock for twenty mins in the second half. His agility is a nightmare for tiring forwards to defend against.

I've said he missed 6 tackles and that's not good enough. I've said all year that turner needs to sort his defence out as he plays centre and if you miss tackles in the centre you get hurt.

He played 6 on Friday and still missed 4 tackles. Every time I see the stats he missed 4 tackles.

Picking on Turner



. I've also said all year that greenwood misses far to many tackles and the worry is, they defend on the same edge!!!

I'm always fair on my critique. I may not think Turber is good enough but ill paraise him of he plays well. That's with all the players. I try to be fair as I can.

I remember you saying I picked on Wilkin few years back and then the following season i gave him so much credit for Ho's role in plsying 7 that's people said I had a man crush on him.

Call me what you will, I always call it as I see it and always fair.