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| For a number of years now you've always seemed to be short at halfback. Wilkin and Wellens playing last night, do you have any up and coming youngsters that could take the rein?
(Doesn't seem to be doing you any harm as you won last year!!!!!)
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"For a number of years now you've always seemed to be short at halfback. Wilkin and Wellens playing last night, do you have any up and coming youngsters that could take the rein?
(Doesn't seem to be doing you any harm as you won last year!!!!!)'"
We've produced a few halfbacks tbh. Matty smith, kyle Eastmomd, jonny lomax (now playing fullback), lee Gaskell, Garry wheeler and Even Scott Moore who was brought thru as a half.
Just didn't work out for one reason or another.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"For a number of years now you've always seemed to be short at halfback. Wilkin and Wellens playing last night, do you have any up and coming youngsters that could take the rein?
(Doesn't seem to be doing you any harm as you won last year!!!!!)'"
As Pete says we have produced a few but we do always seem to be a little light. Latest youngster is called Hewitt but he wasnt deemed to be ready last year and Cunningham has chosen to play a 35 year old former fullback infront of him so far this year so I guess he still isnt ready (maybe never will be)
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"As Pete says we have produced a few but we do always seem to be a little light. Latest youngster is called Hewitt but he wasnt deemed to be ready last year and Cunningham has chosen to play a 35 year old former fullback infront of him so far this year so I guess he still isnt ready (maybe never will be)'"
Nathan Brown liked hewitt and told hed get game time this year. I wouldn't have picked him at wakey either but I wouldn't have wello there either.
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| Wellens has been out since the beginning of the season.
Upon arrival he scores his 199th(?) try with some top play.
He then pulls off a miracle defensive in-goal save which is right up there with KC running down Smith.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Wellens has been out since the beginning of the season.
Upon arrival he scores his 199th(?) try with some top play.
He then pulls off a miracle defensive in-goal save which is right up there with KC running down Smith.'"
And by the looks of it, Wellens will be holding his fullback role for another season, as Lomax challenges Wheeler for the biggest biscuit award...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"And by the looks of it, Wellens will be holding his fullback role for another season, as Lomax challenges Wheeler for the biggest biscuit award...'"
Walsh is front runner for the gary wheeler award
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| The guy would always get a spot on the bench in my team.
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| Quote ="St pete"Walsh is front runner for the gary wheeler award'"
Lomax missed more games than Walsh last year didn't he?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Lomax missed more games than Walsh last year didn't he?'"
Not sure but Lomax played 5 this year and walsh none! Walsh missed a lot of games before his serious leg injury wirh calf and back problems respectivey
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| Quote ="St pete"Walsh is front runner for the gary wheeler award'"
Harsh, he has broke his leg!
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Harsh, he has broke his leg!'"
Harsh on lomax as he did knee ligaments. Works both ways. People can't call lomax biscuit when he's played 5 more games this year than walsh.
Seems on this site that some people like to put aussie, kiwis and Samoans before english players and give the overseas players more credit.
Walsh is great player and I loved seeing him play for saints but his injury record at saints is pretty bad. Calf injuries, back injuries and broken leg in one season is pretty bad luck!
Can't wait to see Walsh, burns and lomax all on the field but with Walsh and lomax injury record I can't see it ever happening.
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| Walsh wasn't particularly injury prone in the NRL, was he? Broken leg aside, the other injuries appear to be preventable. Maybe bad conditioning over here?
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Wellens has been out since the beginning of the season.
Upon arrival he scores his 199th(?) try with some top play.
He then pulls off a miracle defensive in-goal save which is right up there with KC running down Smith.'"
You of course forgot to mention the bit where he was turned inside out by a second row and ended up flailing round on the deck. Wello has been a great player but he's never a halfback in a million years and he's too slow for a modern fullback.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Walsh wasn't particularly injury prone in the NRL, was he? Broken leg aside, the other injuries appear to be preventable. Maybe bad conditioning over here?'"
Interesting that Gary Wheeler struggled to make it through a game without picking up some kind of knock yet seems a little more robust at Dire so far. Maybe just bad luck
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Interesting that Gary Wheeler struggled to make it through a game without picking up some kind of knock yet seems a little more robust at Dire so far. Maybe just bad luck'"
Isn't his contract. Pay per Game?
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| Quote ="wirefox"Isn't his contract. Pay per Game?'"
No. He's on a moderate salary with appearance fees built in.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"You of course forgot to mention the bit where he was turned inside out by a second row and ended up flailing round on the deck. Wello has been a great player but he's never a halfback in a million years and he's too slow for a modern fullback.'"
So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.'"
+1. Some of the posters on here need to get their Mums to buy them a "Paint by numbers set"
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| Quote ="Mugwump"So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.'"
Hardly obsessed , I just dared to point out that your view seems a little one sided. Wellens is worth his weight in gold when we have injuries. He would not make my first choice 17
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"+1. Some of the posters on here need to get their Mums to buy them a "Paint by numbers set"'"
Stop sucking up. It's pathetic as is your 'paint by numbers' comment, if you disagree with something say why and reason / post an alternative view
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Hardly obsessed , I just dared to point out that your view seems a little one sided. Wellens is worth his weight in gold when we have injuries. He would not make my first choice 17'"
For me he is just outside the 17 team, he does however attract over zealous criticism. We are still a relatively young team and we still need some "old heads" in there with experience to give the team some composure.
The natural expectation from some fans might be to bring Hewitt into the side with having no half backs, but that could be pressure damaging as he would be much better playing alongside a Walsh or Burns.
Wilkin has lot of responsibilty at the moment, so another old head will help him out. I,m sure KC sees it this way, its a sticking plaster option until we or if we get the Walsh/Burns partnership everyone wants to see.
Wellens reads the game well and gets into scoring postions, I,ll be chuffed once he scores that 200th try I hope other fans are the same.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Stop sucking up. It's pathetic as is your 'paint by numbers' comment, =#FF0000if you disagree with something say why and reason / post an alternative view'"
Silly Boy
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"
Silly Boy'"
Clearly silly to credit you with intelligence. And who are you calling boy you patronizing prat?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"For me he is just outside the 17 team, he does however attract over zealous criticism. We are still a relatively young team and we still need some "old heads" in there with experience to give the team some composure.
The natural expectation from some fans might be to bring Hewitt into the side with having no half backs, but that could be pressure damaging as he would be much better playing alongside a Walsh or Burns.
Wilkin has lot of responsibilty at the moment, so another old head will help him out. I,m sure KC sees it this way, its a sticking plaster option until we or if we get the Walsh/Burns partnership everyone wants to see.
Wellens reads the game well and gets into scoring postions, I,ll be chuffed once he scores that 200th try I hope other fans are the same.'"
I'd love him to hit the 200 mark too btw. I see your point on Hewitt but sometimes being thrown in the deep end can be the making of someone. Using Wellens in the halves for me is just tantamount to saying sod it were just going to play a forwards game and smash teams up the middle, for all his qualities as a captain, bloke and experienced rugby player he is never a halfback and just doesn't offer us the link with the 3/4.
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