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| Commentary on this game has been bloody dreadful so far. 'Percival should be kicking for 12 all not 12-0'. Come on... That's the sort of thing a Cas fan would be saying. They're questioning every single decision the ref is making (when it goes against Cas), both big and small. What would it take to get a little professionalism? This lot p*** me off on a weekly basis. None of them are any good!
Fair enough their last disallowed try should have stood as the pass was flat, but the first one was well forward! But hey, nothing like twisting what happened to fit into a decided narrative, eh?
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| That pass was more forward than the Joe greenwood offload vs Salford.
If we're going down reffing gripes, gale should of been penalised for kicking out at the Percival no try, it isn't football.
They were much better during the WCS, so I thought maybe the ref bashing was down to Stevo, but obviously not ...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"That pass was more forward than the Joe greenwood offload vs Salford.
If we're going down reffing gripes, gale should of been penalised for kicking out at the Percival no try, it isn't football.
They were much better during the WCS, so I thought maybe the ref bashing was down to Stevo, but obviously not ...'"
Eddie and Phil Clarke did my head in tbh, especially in the first half. Funnily enough when Cas got some calls in tbe 2nd, they didn't have anything to say.
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| I thought we did well to get through that, but perhaps made it slightly harder than it needed to be. Cas seemed well up for the game, you could tell from their warm up and it's intensity that they weren't there to accept a hammering. They played hard, putting plenty of effort into the tackle and the wrestle to try and throw us off our game. They also attacked well, their shape was superb at times, exposing us and making several clear breaks. Their execution cost them the win ultimately, they bombed a couple of easy chances and put down too much ball in good positions.
Just what on earth were our tactics all about? We had a tough game last weekend when Castleford had the week off. Yet we're kicking on the third every tackle, despite our kicking game being largely awful. Instead of turning them around and trapping them deep, all it meant was the game was turned into a defensive practice session. I just don't get why Saints kept going with the tactics.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I thought we did well to get through that, but perhaps made it slightly harder than it needed to be. Cas seemed well up for the game, you could tell from their warm up and it's intensity that they weren't there to accept a hammering. They played hard, putting plenty of effort into the tackle and the wrestle to try and throw us off our game. They also attacked well, their shape was superb at times, exposing us and making several clear breaks. Their execution cost them the win ultimately, they bombed a couple of easy chances and put down too much ball in good positions.
Just what on earth were our tactics all about? We had a tough game last weekend when Castleford had the week off. Yet we're kicking on the third every tackle, despite our kicking game being largely awful. Instead of turning them around and trapping them deep, all it meant was the game was turned into a defensive practice session. I just don't get why Saints kept going with the tactics.'"
I was embarrassed with that drop goal. We are 20-8 up with 5 mins to go on the clock and we drop a goal on 2nd tackle!
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| Gritty win by Saints, just have to accept the 2 points and move on to the next game. Decent performance from Travis Burns keeping us ticking over until the cavalary arrives, better game from Lomax and Makinson made some telling tackles to deter the overlap plays.
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| Quote ="St pete"I was embarrassed with that drop goal. We are 20-8 up with 5 mins to go on the clock and we drop a goal on 2nd tackle!'"
Seconded, but I was more angry. Then again it is the Wilkin show.
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| Jon Wilkin had a shocking game. Sooner Walsh comes back the better.
Can someone please tell Wilkin to stop kicking on the 2nd/3rd tackle!!!!
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| The drop goal was the correct call.
It put the game out of reach. No brainer of a decision for me.
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| Quote ="MatautiaVila"The drop goal was the correct call.
It put the game out of reach. No brainer of a decision for me.'"
20-8 up, 5 meters off their line with 5 mins on clock and we drop a goal on 2nd tackle!
We should have tried to score and if not dropped a goal on 5th but to drop a goal on 2nd tackle isn't what I like to see
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| We were in position under the sticks.
Opportunity knocked, Wilkin delivered.
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| Quote ="MatautiaVila"The drop goal was the correct call.
It put the game out of reach. No brainer of a decision for me.'"
I agree to an extent. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was embarrassing but it did give the ball back to Cas and they scored off the back of it.
You could argue that good game management would be keeping the ball and forcing a drop out.
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| Quote ="Albion"I agree to an extent. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was embarrassing but it did give the ball back to Cas and they scored off the back of it.
You could argue that good game management would be keeping the ball and forcing a drop out.'"
Had no problem going for the drop goal, but we shouldnt of on the second tackle, chance your arm and go for it if they defended the set.
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| Drop goal was fine, but at that point we relaxed and let them score.
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| Drop goal was clever, composed play. It's what the NRL's best would do in a similar situation. It wasn't the game to play against the odds.
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| Quote ="St pete"20-8 up, 5 meters off their line with 5 mins on clock and we drop a goal on 2nd tackle!
We should have tried to score and if not dropped a goal on 5th but to drop a goal on 2nd tackle isn't what I like to see'"
He was perfectly placed for the drop goal at that time though. Why wait until it is anticipated? Better to do it when it's not anticipated and you're in the perfect position. It was needed as we weren't exactly running away with the game. Good game management by Wilkin there I'd say.
But his kicking was awful and I don't understand the persistence with kicking early in the tackle count. That just wears us out even further. Maybe that's a Cunningham game plan, along with four forwards on the bench and no interchange for an exhausted Roby.
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| The occasional kick early in the tackle count is fine, but we seem to be kicking on the 4th or earlier more often than we should. It's not unexpected anymore.
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| Can't understand people saying the drop goal wasn't the correct decision.
Also that buffoon on sky who couldn't add up the score and work out it put us the scores clear and killed the game.
I truly hate the sky coverage.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Can't understand people saying the drop goal wasn't the correct decision.
Also that buffoon on sky who couldn't add up the score and work out it put us the scores clear and killed the game.
I truly hate the sky coverage.'"
They're bafoons. Watch the game but listen to radio commentary is the way forward
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| First game I've been to for a while and was expecting Cas to get the backlash from last weekend but we were dire. Overall I thought it was the worst game I've watched for ages and the stadium atmosphere was non-existent. We really really need to improve. Mind you we started off last year like this, winning when playing badly and look where we ended up.
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| And another thing, why did we keep going to the right when Cas's right winger could hardly even stand up? I think I could have got past him down that side. They just didn't seem to be aware of it even though he'd been on the ground getting treatment for about 5 minutes.
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"And another thing, why did we keep going to the right when Cas's right winger could hardly even stand up? I think I could have got past him down that side. They just didn't seem to be aware of it even though he'd been on the ground getting treatment for about 5 minutes.'"
That drove me mad too. We need to be more ruthless
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Can't understand people saying the drop goal wasn't the correct decision.
Also that buffoon on sky who couldn't add up the score and work out it put us the scores clear and killed the game.
I truly hate the sky coverage.'"
The drop goal was the right idea but not on 2nd tackle! It should have been on 5th or we should have pinned them down at their end.
Instead we actually gave them extra time to score, we put them up our end of the field and they scored. Surley playing the clock down with few extra tackles and then dropping a goal or putting little kick and pinning them down there.
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| Quote ="St pete"The drop goal was the right idea but not on 2nd tackle! It should have been on 5th or we should have pinned them down at their end.
Instead we actually gave them extra time to score, we put them up our end of the field and they scored. Surley playing the clock down with few extra tackles and then dropping a goal or putting little kick and pinning them down there.'"
We may have given them more time to score but we also gave ourselves time to defend. That our defence is so shoddy is a concern. Kicking a meaningful drop goal when in the right position to do so is not a concern.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"We may have given them more time to score but we also gave ourselves time to defend. That our defence is so shoddy is a concern. Kicking a meaningful drop goal when in the right position to do so is not a concern.'"
Maybe I expect more and have different ideas but Imo we gifted them the field position and time to score.
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