Saints won the league, they have had the easier semi-final, they have an extra days rest and they beat Wigan the last time the teams met.

More nervous than we thought are we?

This is embarassing. It makes me look level headed and rational.

No, just stating facts!

Then, sadly, you make me say something I never thought I'd say ...

I'm with Saddened on this one...

The bookies will decide the favourites and it will be Wigan with Saints having about an 8 point start on the coupon.

Means little though in truth. It's a final and anything can happen. To win Saints will need to be at their best and we will need to be below our best but that happens in finals and the pressurised atmosphere can really even the contest up.

This could go either way.

I'd take Saints with an 8 start, hope the bookies throw that out for the public.

You had an 8 start last night which I gladly took.

I'd be surprised if Saints don't have the same.

posted just after 1am, good night was it? I'll have some of what you were on!
Wigan are big favourites for this, they've got 2 halfbacks to our none for starters!

Perhaps I should have added a question mark to the title so that you guys wouldn't be so touchi! I take it that you don't agree and by the sound of it you don't rate your chances! It is a good job your team doesn't think the same way!

Only a complete idiot with sh*t for brains would think saints are favourites.

What a complete idiot

I didn't say they were favourites, I just gave some facts!

So when you called the topic 'Saints favourites for GF' what did you mean if it wasn't that Saints were favourites for the GF?

It's a e attempt at mind games!!!

I'm approaching the game from the mind set I had of the late eighties to mid nineties when playing Wigan, in that I expect a very one sided encounter in which Wigan win by 20 to 30 points. As a result its not really about winning but seeing if there are any individual areas that we can match or better them.

A victory for Saints is very unlikely. I struggle to see were we will be able to fashion try scoring opportunities against an aggressive and organised defence.

Wigan will also take out Roby within the first 20 minutes as he is our one threat. Look out for a cannonball or a twist of the ankle like they did to Chris Bridge last night.

Oh and if Saints were to somehow fashion a win I will party like it was 1996

I never thought we would get here but now we are there.

A one off game where anything can happen. We have beaten them without Walsh this season. No reason why we cannot do it again.

I believe we can win (why wouldn't you) but Wigan are massive favourites

I honestly fear for us. I just can't see one area that we can win the game. I hope and pray I'm wrong but I can't see anything other than the biggest score in grand final history.

That's not me bagging saints or being negative but me being honest.

No bookie in the land have Saints as favourite. Stop being a whopper.

Some things are better not said. I feel you are being negative.
I can't imagine that it will be a one sided game. Saints have everything to gain from this Grand Final. Win or lose they will have the experience of the big stage. With the players they have had available they have worked wonders this season and they can only get get better.

I'm sorry Pet but there is to much negative talk about the final.
According to some posters we should give Wigan the trophy now.

This is wrong. Get behind your team and don't even think of losing.

Well said, I only wish it would be a walk in the park for us but I’m sure it will be as much as a walk in the park as it was last night. "THEM" will be well up for it and SW knows it just as much as I do.

The final was as good as won last night , Saints have doe fantastic this season against adversity but i'm afraid i can see a blow out next Saturday

Unless wigan totally bottle it I can't see anyway for saints to do it. Warrington, with all their attacking flair struggled to break through wigan's defence. Wigan's pack was unbelievably powerful that first 20 minutes. Warrington were barely getting out of their 20 metres. It was relentless. If wigan start in similiar fashion the game will be over by halftime.

If our pack play as well as they can then its a much stronger pack than Warrington's. In fact, on form we have the best pack in SL. I'm confident we won't lose it in the middle.

They've got a soft underbelly.