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| Who should Saints pick for next week depending on who wins this week?
I think if Castleford beat Wire we'll pick Cas next week
But if Wire beat Cas tonight we'll make Wigan play play Wire next week and we'll choose the winner on Friday?
What say you
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| IMO our best chance for the trophy is if Wire beat Wigan.
I'd not exactly be confident, but I can see us taking Warrington in the final. I can't see us, or anyone else, beating Wigan.
That may be the pessimist in me.
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| I agree with both of you.
I wouldn't fancy us in a final v Wigan, purely because of who we have missing. At full strength I'd fancy us.
Therefore if Warrington beat Cas we simply have to send them to Wigan and hope they do us a favour, whilst taking plenty out of their own tank in the process.
If Cas win then we may fancy them again after last week, but a Catalans win would mean we would surely pick them over Cas?
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| My order of preference would be:
Cas
Catalans
Hudds
Wire
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| Would we be the first team not to pick the lowest placed team if Warrington and hudds win ?
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| Quote ="St pete"Would we be the first team not to pick the lowest placed team if Warrington and hudds win ?'"
Weren't huddersfield picked last year even though they finished top?
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| Quote ="St pete"Would we be the first team not to pick the lowest placed team if Warrington and hudds win ?'"
Didn't Hudds get picked last year?
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| Yeah, Warrington have already took the brave decision to choose an easy beat over the lowest placed side.
I'm not convinced McManus would however. Back in the early days he reacted badly to the concept and stated he'd always choose the lowest ranked didn't he?
Personally I'd pick Warrington. That way we can lose to them at home rather than spending £100+ to spend a night being tortured by a defeat at Old Trafford to Wigan or Wire.
I really think it's Wire's this year.
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| Good old Saddened!
If we choose Warrington when Hudds or Catalans are available to choose then we are stupid.
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| I think it's wigans year and if we pick Warrington they couid do another number on us.
I'd pick the easiest team regardless of where they finished in the league
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| wire would be my last choice
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| Definitely let Wigan and Warrington go at each other and play whoever is left, assuming Wire win tonight that is.
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| Warrington are going to win it this year. The likes of Ratchford and Myler are maturing into very good players now and with Monaghan controlling things they won't be stopped. They are just out and out better than Wigan across the pitch, bar O'Loughlin. Leeds losing to Catalans is horrible as it means we could well get an easy semi final and end up at Old Trafford. Being realistic we simply don't deserve that this season.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"IMO our best chance for the trophy is if Wire beat Wigan.
I'd not exactly be confident, but I can see us taking Warrington in the final. I can't see us, or anyone else, beating Wigan.
That may be the pessimist in me.'"
No just the lack of logic.
Saints get the results by lifting their game over the Pies through this season and past seasons but have been thoroughly beaten by Wire in virtually all but the opening game of 2014.
Saints best chance of getting a win is against the Pies. Avoid Wire and pick Hudds hoping that Wigan continue with the upper hand over Warrington.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Warrington are going to win it this year. The likes of Ratchford and Myler are maturing into very good players now and with Monaghan controlling things they won't be stopped. They are just out and out better than Wigan across the pitch, bar O'Loughlin. Leeds losing to Catalans is horrible as it means we could well get an easy semi final and end up at Old Trafford. Being realistic we simply don't deserve that this season.'"
If we don't deserve to get to Old Trafford, having finished top, then who deserves it more?
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| I would pick Warrington 100%. I would even send out a press release tonight saying that we pick them.
The thing with these club calls is you can never win out of the situation. No one believes that we are confident enough to pick the wolfs, so if we did pick them then it immediately gives us the mental edge and shows real confidence and belief in the team. In this situation you have to be bold.
I also don't think they were particularly impressive tonight. Cas were awful (so bad) yet it was very tight until the GOB try. I don't know whether that is because they knew they could coast or whether they just didn't play well. I feel it is the latter as they haven't played well at all in the last couple of weeks, so I don't think they are as intimidating as people are making out on here.
I also think that we would struggle against Huddersfield. I think if they have Danny Brough back they will beat us and the fact that they should pick up a big win tomorrow might give them the confidence that Wigan smashed out of them last week.
BRING ON THE WOLFS I SAY!
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| Quote ="Albion"I would pick Warrington 100%. I would even send out a press release tonight saying that we pick them.
The thing with these club calls is you can never win out of the situation. No one believes that we are confident enough to pick the wolfs, so if we did pick them then it immediately gives us the mental edge and shows real confidence and belief in the team. In this situation you have to be bold.
I also don't think they were particularly impressive tonight. Cas were awful (so bad) yet it was very tight until the GOB try. I don't know whether that is because they knew they could coast or whether they just didn't play well. I feel it is the latter as they haven't played well at all in the last couple of weeks, so I don't think they are as intimidating as people are making out on here.
I also think that we would struggle against Huddersfield. I think if they have Danny Brough back they will beat us and the fact that they should pick up a big win tomorrow might give them the confidence that Wigan smashed out of them last week.
BRING ON THE WOLFS I SAY!'"
This.
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| I thought Wire were so so.
Too an interest in Clarke and Snyde tonight. Don't know if we were ever considering Snyde, but if we were we dodged the bullet. Maybe good on his day, but tonight he was woeful and it was not like he was behind a hammered pack.
Defense shocking, penalties, kicks astray, just not very good at all.
Clarke does have a nice eye for a gap, but his passing from the ruck was a bit hit and miss. Above heads, to feet. Not sure if it was the pressure or what, but seemed to pick up once the cas 9 came on the field.
As for who to pick, I don't buy the mentality thing. Just pick the best bet. To me that would be Catalan at this moment in time, after tomorrow it maybe Wire or Huddersfield, have to see how huddersfield shape up.
The only time I would not have picked the weakest team was the last season at KR, when I would have prefered Wigan in the semi, to take them out before the final as they were always going to do better on a bigger pitch.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"This.'"
There is 0% chance we will pick wire and I for one agree.
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| Quote ="Albion"I would pick Warrington 100%. I would even send out a press release tonight saying that we pick them.
The thing with these club calls is you can never win out of the situation. No one believes that we are confident enough to pick the wolfs, so if we did pick them then it immediately gives us the mental edge and shows real confidence and belief in the team. In this situation you have to be bold.
I also don't think they were particularly impressive tonight. Cas were awful (so bad) yet it was very tight until the GOB try. I don't know whether that is because they knew they could coast or whether they just didn't play well. I feel it is the latter as they haven't played well at all in the last couple of weeks, so I don't think they are as intimidating as people are making out on here.
I also think that we would struggle against Huddersfield. I think if they have Danny Brough back they will beat us and the fact that they should pick up a big win tomorrow might give them the confidence that Wigan smashed out of them last week.
BRING ON THE WOLFS I SAY!'"
I think it gives the wolves the mental edge if we pick them. Nobody wants to go to Wigan so all be hoping we pick them.
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| Quote ="Saddened!" Being realistic we simply don't deserve that this season.'"
Reality, has shown we have beaten all the top sides if not once but twice or thrice this season with a weakened side, the survivng players deserve something from that.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Warrington are going to win it this year. The likes of Ratchford and Myler are maturing into very good players now and with Monaghan controlling things they won't be stopped. They are just out and out better than Wigan across the pitch, bar O'Loughlin. Leeds losing to Catalans is horrible as it means we could well get an easy semi final and end up at Old Trafford. Being realistic we simply don't deserve that this season.'"
Do you ever get bored?
I can picture it now if we somehow do manage to win the Grand Final:
Saddened! "We may be Champions, but we don't deserve it despite beating everyone and we certainly don't deserve a shot at the WCC where we will horribly embarrass ourselves."
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| We'd be mental to pick Warrington. I don't mean any disrespect to Huddersfield and Catalans, but if we pick Wire we have to beat both of the most dangerous sides in the competition to win the title. If we don't pick them we only have to beat one.
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| Quote ="Dux"We'd be mental to pick Warrington. I don't mean any disrespect to Huddersfield and Catalans, but if we pick Wire we have to beat both of the most dangerous sides in the competition to win the title. If we don't pick them we only have to beat one.'"
Exactly. Whether you think we've a better chance against Wire or Wigan, they are a much stiffer test than Cats or Hudds.
I'd be more confident about getting one over on Wire in the Final than I would Wigan, I'd also be (slightly) less gutted to see them lift the title.
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| For me Club Call should be the winners of tonights game.
We proved against Castleford that we have other options in the kicking game department with Roby and Turner sharing the kicking game. It certainly took Castleford of their stride. Kick chase will need to be right up there again too.
The pack needs to replicate it's dominant form against Castleford and put the squeeze on their main attacking threats of Brough (if he's fit), Robinson and Grix (should Huddersfield Win).
Send Warrington to Wigan and let them smash ten shades of poop out of each other. If Wigan/Warrington had club call then they'd do exactly the same
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