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| As the title suggest Ade has now left the club for rest of season?
Question: Is this freeing up cap space for a signing? (GOB)
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| I doubt it's for GOB.
Probably just seeing that we have some strength in depth and it would be unlikely he would get the odd game during the season
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I doubt it's for GOB.
Probably just seeing that we have some strength in depth and it would be unlikely he would get the odd game during the season'"
You could be right as i can't see Wire letting him go this season so something's going on behind the scene?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I doubt it's for GOB.
Probably just seeing that we have some strength in depth and it would be unlikely he would get the odd game during the season'"
I dont think we have so much depth that we can do without 2 senior players? If it was merely because we can loan him out (rather than to make space for coming in) - wouldnt that make Galbraith our second back up winger? Is he ready?
I may be wrong, but isnt it that there isnt a recall clause in season long loans? Which is why most loans are rolling month on month contracts?
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| Whilst loans are usually seen as the club offloading, it can be player inspired if they think they are going to get lost. It's fine for him to get paid for nowt this year. But he may not have another career lined up yet, so needs to stay in the shop window to pay the mortgage next year.
I'm not sure where we need cover really. I would argue a 6. But give Lance his due he had a good one last week, so lets hope he builds some form.
I'd be thinking maybe a replacement 9 to give us that something different and allow Roby a rest, before we burn him out again.
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| Anyone know how he's getting on at hkr
I remember him coming back from injury, and that game against Leeds after Royce was sacked Ade was outstanding as he was at wire the next game.
Would have liked to see Ade in the second row to see how he got on.
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| In Walsh, Wilkin, Hohaia and Wheeler, we've got 4 half backs before we consider the youngsters.
GOB is not of the level to make me want to disrupt our squad. He's also needed at Wire as losing Briers means he's gone up in their pecking order.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"In Walsh, Wilkin, Hohaia and Wheeler, we've got 4 half backs before we consider the youngsters.
GOB is not of the level to make me want to disrupt our squad. He's also needed at Wire as losing Briers means he's gone up in their pecking order.'"
Hes been dropped (again) at the first possible opportunity - inspite of players (myler) playing worse than him according to the wire fans. They will run with 1. Russell 6. Ratchford 7. Myler now for the forseeable future - whilst it may not be to saints, I wouldnt be surprised to see him requesting a move.
I think we have enough cover to not need to bring in a lower level halfback (if a superstar came along of course I'd want us to make a play) but imo, if were looking at mid season transfers, cover for roby would be higher in my list of priorities
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| I hope it's not for GOB. Good luck Ade!
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| Quote ="saintcj"Anyone know how he's getting on at hkr
I remember him coming back from injury, and that game against Leeds after Royce was sacked Ade was outstanding as he was at wire the next game.
Would have liked to see Ade in the second row to see how he got on.'"
Because were really short of back row options Best thing for all parties letting him go and hopefully earn a few bob over the next couple of years
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| Quote ="Rommel"Question: Is this freeing up cap space for a signing? (GOB)'"
really really hope its not for GOB. Not Saints quality at all
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| I really don't get the dislike of GOB.
He shaped up our team at the tail end of the season. If he had played Leeds we may have won that match.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I really don't get the dislike of GOB.
He shaped up our team at the tail end of the season. If he had played Leeds we may have won that match.'"
He's ok just quite ordinary. Looked a diamond when he first came on the scene.
Lost his way a bit and lost something with it.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"He's ok just quite ordinary. Looked a diamond when he first came on the scene.
Lost his way a bit and lost something with it.'"
But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??
He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??
He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.'"
I dont think it's going to happen but as people are speculating - if we lay it out would Gareth O'Brien be a more useful sqaud member than Ade Gardner ... imo yes.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"But when you are talking a 3rd halfback do we need anyone better than ok??
He would not play alongside Walsh, but stand in for injuries and lesser games were we need to rest him.'"
I understand.
However these days fringe players have a very short shelf life.
They are youngsters on the way up or someone looking
for a second chance but with real potential.
Look at Clough his time has come and gone therefore he needs to step down
to continue. The next crop of forwards are overtaking him.
At his best O'Brien is solid.
The real problem is that while the youth production line has been churning
out plenty of forwards and enough backs, there have been no HBs or hookers for a while.
Saints are on to the next crop of 16 year olds who may be ready in 2-3 years.
It is further complicated by hot & cold Hohaia and AWOL Wheeler neither of which
has been a nailed on 6 upto now.
When one or both goes the way is clear to buy
a proper 6 and a 3rd halfback/hooker with the change.
Top of the shopping list has to be Snyed.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"I understand.
However these days fringe players have a very short shelf life.
They are youngsters on the way up or someone looking
for a second chance but with real potential.
Look at Clough his time has come and gone therefore he needs to step down
to continue. The next crop of forwards are overtaking him.
At his best O'Brien is solid.
The real problem is that while the youth production line has been churning
out plenty of forwards and enough backs, there have been no HBs or hookers for a while.
Saints are on to the next crop of 16 year olds who may be ready in 2-3 years.
It is further complicated by hot & cold Hohaia and AWOL Wheeler neither of which
has been a nailed on 6 upto now.
When one or both goes the way is clear to buy
a proper 6 and a 3rd halfback/hooker with the change.
Top of the shopping list has to be Snyed.'"
If were living in fantasy dream world, and punting on a relative youngster from another club, I'd rather we went for sutcliffe at Leeds - the problem with going for Sneyd would be koukash - the more enquiries made, the more he'll want to keep him.
We've produced more than enough halfbacks to have left us set (grand final winners, international caps etc have come from saints academy), unfortunately for whatever reason, it's not worked out
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| I agree about cover for roby.
A good quality hooker to spell Roby would be great.
Higham would be nice or someone of that calibre.
Good thing in right games you can push roby into the forwards.
You could put roby anywhere on the field and in pretty sure he would be outstanding.
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| Tight games*
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| back on topic, this move is good for everyone. Signing Dawson signalled Ade's time was up, Dawson is a reserve winger/ centre which puts Ade right out of the picture.
All the best Ade, always gave his best for the V
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| The only reason Ade gone on loan for the season as he's got no future at saints. It's as simple as that.
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| If were talking about a reserve hooker then daryl Clarke from Castleford is a class act reminds me so much of a young james roby. Gob isn't a bad player and we looked a lot better last year with him.
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| Quote ="fry"If were talking about a reserve hooker then daryl Clarke from Castleford is a class act reminds me so much of a young james roby. Gob isn't a bad player and we looked a lot better last year with him.'"
Lots has been made about Clarke, he'll demand a high price to begin with (since he has 4 years to run on his deal) and it may end up as a bidding war between Salford, Warrington and potentially a few others - I don't think we'd be interested in getting involved with that. As nice a signing as it would be, we paid our first transfer fee in a good number of years, and don't expect to see huge sums thrown around any time soon (though we may see another Amor style signing)
It wouldn't surprise me if were looking for a new hooker (especially if lance goes) but I don't expect it to be his profile necessarily.
With Adey the best at hkr though - hopefully he can play himself into a contract (if that's what he wants)
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