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| Anyone watch the Samoa game last night and how did Mose do
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| Quote ="Rommel"Anyone watch the Samoa game last night and how did Mose do
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He did ok. He wasn't as good as he was in the kiwi game but played more mins and did more tackles. He wasn't running like he was against the kiwis.
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| I hope that his display was a one off.
He did not impress me whatsoever.
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| Made a few strong carries - but nowhere near the intensity of last week - to be fair Samoa as a team were cruising 20-0 up when he came on
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| Quote ="wirefox"I hope that his display was a one off.
He did not impress me whatsoever.'"
But he was impressive against the biggest and IMO the best pack in rugby league last week against the kiwis.
It was 22-0 when he came on and over as a contest when he arrived on the field.
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| He played an extended spell of 35 mins around half time. He also came on for the last 5-10 mins so the coach was probably trying to give him an extended run to improve his conditioning.
He came up with some big tackles (the Rovers fans seemed to enjoy them), the issue he had was that all the Papuans are very short. He had to bend quite far down to hit them legally.
He made some big metres in the tackle but I do feel he could have run harder to try and break through. However as someone else has already said he came on when the game was won, so not much motivation to bust a gut.
Sia was immense, he was everywhere in defence and did some great running.
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| Got to say that while I love to watch a huge bloke on the field (Paul Anderson, what a star), I was a bit concerned that Masoe was not well-conditioned-huge, so much as who-ate-all-the-pies-huge. I hope we can get his conditioning right next year, or he'll only be worth a ten-minute bench slot.
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| Well as he is getting an extended season with the WC, it should help towards keeping him trimmer.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Got to say that while I love to watch a huge bloke on the field (Paul Anderson, what a star), I was a bit concerned that Masoe was not well-conditioned-huge, so much as who-ate-all-the-pies-huge. I hope we can get his conditioning right next year, or he'll only be worth a ten-minute bench slot.'"
10 minutes? Where do you get that from? Did you see the game last night?
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Got to say that while I love to watch a huge bloke on the field (Paul Anderson, what a star), I was a bit concerned that Masoe was not well-conditioned-huge, so much as who-ate-all-the-pies-huge. I hope we can get his conditioning right next year, or he'll only be worth a ten-minute bench slot.'"
Good post, went last night. He,s a big lad and my honest first thought was a taller Feka Eatapieaseena As you say,your not gonna get a lot of minutes out of him as he is. Deffo an impact player. Sia soliola was immense, looked fit and up for it, did the full 80...
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| I payed close attention to the amount of minutes Mose did yesterday and people are obviously pre judging him. He played around 45 minutes, including a 25 minute period in the first half. That's long minutes for such a big man, when he's fully conditioned after a pre season I have no doubt the minutes won't be an issue for him.
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| I would be quite happy if we can get 15 to 20 mins out of him each half, one of those sessions being a game changing one in our favour.
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| We dont need big minutes from him, he's an impact player. We have Amor and Lms for big minutes. Walmesley and Masoe for sheer brute force and impact
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"We dont need big minutes from him, he's an impact player. We have Amor and Lms for big minutes. Walmesley and Masoe for sheer brute force and impact'"
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe":2bs1qfqp10 minutes? Where do you get that from? Did you see the game last night?'" Saints shirt.
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| For me Mose will be more equivalent to Baloo rather than Barry Ward. If we can get him fitter and he stays injury free then he will take a lot of "weight" of our other forwards.
Whichever way you look at him its an improvement on Josh.
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| I think he's more likely to be a Fa'asavalu type player., coming off the bench.
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| It is obvious to me that he has been guided to understand how to manage his energy when on the field. So that he can be effective when he is needed.
You dont see him running on the off chance that he may get a pass from a break, his every involvement is pre determined. What this does mean is that oppositions will be able to ignore him on some plays as if he doesnt move you are sure he wont be involved in the play.
He also doesnt fly back into the line preserving his energy - this also means he could be targetted in attack.
If I was in charge of him next year I would look to up his work rate and worry less about the length of time he is on the pitch.
Up his work rate - increase his fitness - better involvement when he is on the pitch - eventually more minutes and at a more intense level.
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| I'd play him in the centres. That would sort our problematic backline.
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| Quote ="St. Etrigan"It is obvious to me that he has been guided to understand how to manage his energy when on the field. So that he can be effective when he is needed.
You dont see him running on the off chance that he may get a pass from a break, his every involvement is pre determined. What this does mean is that oppositions will be able to ignore him on some plays as if he doesnt move you are sure he wont be involved in the play.
He also doesnt fly back into the line preserving his energy - this also means he could be targetted in attack.
If I was in charge of him next year I would look to up his work rate and worry less about the length of time he is on the pitch.
Up his work rate - increase his fitness - better involvement when he is on the pitch - eventually more minutes and at a more intense level.'"
I Also think some of it is him being lazy.
I think he will be a good player for us and a fans favourite.
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| Quote ="St pete"I Also think some of it is him being lazy.
I think he will be a good player for us and a fans favourite.'"
Exactly as Feka was with Wigan.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly as Feka was with Wigan.'"
It doesn't matter how many times you say it, he's a completely different build to fat Feka.
Also, fat Feka ain't so fat anymore.
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| hes on big lad!!! look forward to seeing him in super league next season, obvious replacement for puletua
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It doesn't matter how many times you say it, he's a completely different build to fat Feka.
Also, fat Feka ain't so fat anymore.'"
He's exactly the same style, and Feka was a fans favourite with many at Wigan.
Go to that well known video sharing site and do a search for him and you'll see what I mean.
He made more metres than any other Wigan forward for four consecutive years 2006 - 2009
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He's exactly the same style, and Feka was a fans favourite with many at Wigan.
Go to that well known video sharing site and do a search for him and you'll see what I mean.
He made more metres than any other Wigan forward for four consecutive years 2006 - 2009'"
Mose is a few inches taller and a few kg's lighter than Feka was, he's a completely different build. Feka was a lot more 'padded' shall we say than Mose is.
Mose has had a 6 week lay off before playing and was in better shape throughout this season than he is now, which he will be once again after a full pre season with Saints. He without doubt needs a bit of conditioning but he's nowhere near fatty Feka's league, he plays a lot more minutes.
Just because their style is similar, doesn't mean they're similar players. They've got the same style as Walmsley has, Fa'asavalu had and others, doesn't make them fat like Feka though.
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