Due to yesterday's results, we are now assured of a top 8 finish. Not so many weeks ago, some were worrying whether this would happen, and yet now we are sure to be there with 3 weeks to go.

I think we are pretty much safe now due to a good turnaround in form. A few weeks ago we were playing so poorly we didnt look like being able to pull a win out of the bag, if that form had continued we'd have been staring down the barrel of a finish outside of the playoffs

Indicates the problem with the 8 team playoffs. We've been e for large periods, but have put a little run together and cruised into the playoffs.

SL is weak and is getting weaker. We are half the team we used to be and when you look at the current Wigan team it's not a patch on the team of say 2004. There are less quality players and the ones we do have are leaving or have left to join Union or NRL teams. There is no quick fix to this as the problem is simple, money or lack of it. Removing the salary cap will not help as it will just mean what talent we do have just gets hoovered up by a couple of clubs and then the league will be even more boring.

We are a shadow of the team we used to be - but we haven't won a trophy for 5 years and are no longer one of the top dogs!
Warrington have a playing roster oozing with stars and the current Leeds backline is exceptional.

We do need more money, but its not that dire. Wigan have shown that even with a modest playing roster, you can still play some very entertaining rugby.

We need the top teams to be turning up every week, in order that they don't jepordise their playoff spot.

If we don't want to cheapen the league, then we need to make sure that every match counts. Will the new format do this?

trust bradford after having taken a good lead let catalan end up winning.....they are just 1 point behind us now!

I reckon we might finish in 6th place, for a team that has been poor for perhaps 20 games out of the 24 so far, just shows how bad superleague is at the moment.
The current top 4 are way ahead performance wise over the rest of the league.
Hull KR and Hull have looked better than us this year, yet for some reason we have managed to creep above them.

It only occured to me this weekend.


Saints play our last game of the season on Friday 6th of September.
Penrith play their last game 2 days later on the 8th.

Any chance we have already started the Visa paper work on Walsh. Deregister Perry and bobs your uncle (salary cap permitting) we have 2 halfbacks.

Don't RL contracts run until November?

I doubt this would ever happen.

Even so, it would be a huge ask of the player to come here and slot into our system seamlessly.

Agreed. You only have to look at Jacob Miller at hull. He's only starting to show any form now and he's been here about a month.

Leave Walsh until next season IMO.

The RFL changed the rules after the "Joey" Johns fiasco.

And rightly so.

I don't think it's good by the club to bring a player in basically just for the play offs. The fact Warrington actually de-registerd a player to bring Johns over was disgusting for Appo (I think).

Don't feel sorry for appo, after his 'amazing' quarter of a season in 03 he turned up to pre season badly out of shape expecting to just walk into the team, and when he didn't get the stand off role he saw his and did bugger all for the next year and a half, he was only playing now and then as we didn't have anyone else to pick at that point.

He was well paid for two years for not doing very much.

This would be different. Walsh is coming in November to begin a 2 year contract, this would only mean he would be coming a bit early. Perry is already leaving and the rules say we can deregister him but his salary still counts toward the cap.

You'd have to register a full years wage for the new fella as well, I think

Who was the aussie full back that you had around that time?

Was it Brent Grose or was he a winger?

I understand it's not a golden bullet. But given we have not had more than 2 weeks of any consistent halfback pairing, it was just a thought that had occured to me.

Like people say there are issues with is, but it's an option.

As for his full year counting on the salary cap, that can't be true surely. Otherwise loan players or players transfering club mid-season would become unstuck by this.

If we had a 2nd halfback playing already I would agree it's not a move I would like to see. But given our longer term injuries if we had the space, it would be an option worth keeping open. Even if just cover against GOB getting another shot to the head.

We signed grose as a centre in 03 and he was shifted to fullback in 05 to accommodate Gleeson and koh love's return.


Our actual full back at that point was my good mate Daryl cardiss, who we couldn't get on the field due to injury and I believe he had some family issues at the time, Appo did fill in occasionally or on the wing but in his mind he was stand off or nothing.

Grose, that was him. Not a bad player from what I remember

Cardiss was also a good player, I especially remember him being a live wire for Halifax.