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| So what do people think ? Personally I like the look of him so far. He's made a few errors but thats to be expected given he is new into the squad.
I'd like to see us try and do a deal with Dire to get him on a permanent transfer especially if we manage to ditch Hohaia. If Wheeler ever gets fit having Walsh , O'Brien and Wheeler fighting for the halfback spots with Yates and Charnock as backups wouldn't be a bad position .
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"So what do people think ? Personally I like the look of him so far. He's made a few errors but thats to be expected given he is new into the squad.
I'd like to see us try and do a deal with Dire to get him on a permanent transfer especially if we manage to ditch Hohaia. If Wheeler ever gets fit having Walsh , O'Brien and Wheeler fighting for the halfback spots with Yates and Charnock as backups wouldn't be a bad position .'"
I think he's done ok considering he's only been here just over a week. He's a little rusty and dropped a few passes today which he shouid be taking but possibly due to not playing super league regular and not up to speed yet.
He looks like a proper scrumhalf, he holds the ball up at the right times and takes it to the line looking for short balls.
His defence and goal kicking is top notch. Very surprised at how good he's defended.
I'd defo take him for the year.
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| He's alright, nothing more. I don't see the point in trying to get him permanently, he's too similar to Walsh from the stuff I've read about him. He doesn't seem to have any sort of running game and really doesn't impose himself on games.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He doesn't seem to have any sort of running game and really doesn't impose himself on games.'"
Good grief. The lad's 21, has played even less at first grade than did Gaskell, has had only one full week of training with us, played his first game at Langtree Park today, had to put up with mid-game changes and is clearly being restricted (since he is reputed to have a good kicking game). What do you expect?
He looks like a skinny kid, yet he's tough. Not afraid to take on the line and also to tackle whatever comes his way. Pity he knocked on a couple of times but he wasn't the only guilty culprit today. Other than that though I think he's doing just fine.
AND HE CAN KICK GOALS!!!
If he settles a bit more I hope he can stay with us a bit longer than his initial month loan as having a young halfback in combination with Lomax who complements Lomax would be good going forward. Im sure he will do his level best to impress given the pecking order at the Wolves.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Good grief. The lad's 21, has played even less at first grade than did Gaskell, has had only one full week of training with us, played his first game at Langtree Park today, had to put up with mid-game changes and is clearly being restricted (since he is reputed to have a good kicking game). What do you expect?
He looks like a skinny kid, yet he's tough. Not afraid to take on the line and also to tackle whatever comes his way. Pity he knocked on a couple of times but he wasn't the only guilty culprit today. Other than that though I think he's doing just fine.
AND HE CAN KICK GOALS!!!
If he settles a bit more I hope he can stay with us a bit longer than his initial month loan as having a young halfback in combination with Lomax who complements Lomax would be good going forward. Im sure he will do his level best to impress given the pecking order at the Wolves.'"
The end of the season would be nice if the wolves would allow it:
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He's alright, nothing more. I don't see the point in trying to get him permanently, he's too similar to Walsh from the stuff I've read about him. He doesn't seem to have any sort of running game and really doesn't impose himself on games.'"
You wouldn't have been impressed by Jesus at the feeding of the five thousand given that he wasn't born in a stable in St Helens..............
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"You wouldn't have been impressed by Jesus at the feeding of the five thousand given that he wasn't born in a stable in St Helens..............'"
Saddened: "This isn't cod...and where's the batter?"
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| I'm on the fence with him (as I've mentioned just in the other thread).
He is a HB and that is something we currently need, so I'm all for giving him a good run in the team as he has shown that he can pass the ball and can kick (things that Ashe cannot do).
Made too many errors today though, mostly unforced and his fault. Maybe it was rust but that cannot be excused by only training with us for a week.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"You wouldn't have been impressed by Jesus at the feeding of the five thousand given that he wasn't born in a stable in St Helens..............'"
Hypothetical comparison anyway, where would they find three wise men and a virgin in StHelens?
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| Pleasantly surprised by his defence considering there's nothing of him. Despite a few errors, he looks good to me.
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| Far too lighyweight and slow. We need a 6 with a running game outside Walsh. O Brien is not our man IMO.
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| He's done ok, he's not afraid to try stuff, gets hit taking the line on close and gets straight back up.
Maybe a little early to be thinking about next year, but for this year, I'd say if we could get him, then get him.
Next year depends who else is available.
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| Quote ="Zeus The Saint"Far too lighyweight and slow. We need a 6 with a running game outside Walsh. O Brien is not our man IMO.'"
Similar things were said about Matty Smith, we didn't appreciate his talent and let him go. Unfortunately Wigan are gonna reap the benefits of that mistake. I'm not bothered if the 6 & 7 have any pace. I think the half backs should be able to guide us round the pitch, pick the right pass, make the right kick...let the other lads be the 'runners'. That's just my opinion anyway...which means nowt.
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| We should still try our utmost to bring Chase over.
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| Chase is going salford though with meli and puletua
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| Is anyone else worried that Adam Swift is going to go to waste?
The clubs persistance with the likes of Wellens and Gardner seems to be hampering him more than others.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Is anyone else worried that Adam Swift is going to go to waste?
The clubs persistance with the likes of Wellens and Gardner seems to be hampering him more than others.'"
Yep , If we sign those 2 on for next year It will seriously hold him back imo. He is at an age where he needs to be playing games.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Is anyone else worried that Adam Swift is going to go to waste?
The clubs persistance with the likes of Wellens and Gardner seems to be hampering him more than others.'"
Depends how reliable Swift is though. I'm sure I read somewhere he's a qualified aerospace engineer so if a chance comes along I can't see him turning that down (and I wouldn't blame him).
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| Quote ="TheVee"Depends how reliable Swift is though. I'm sure I read somewhere he's a qualified aerospace engineer so if a chance comes along I can't see him turning that down (and I wouldn't blame him).'"
A lot of people see real potential in Swift. If they're right, he may as well give it his best shot, knowing that he has engineering to take up when he's done.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"A lot of people see real potential in Swift. If they're right, he may as well give it his best shot, knowing that he has engineering to take up when he's done.'"
I think he is potentially a good winger and hope he sticks around but if the chance comes for him to take up something he can do for life probably for similar money I just can't see him sticking around. Hopefully i'm wrong.
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| Quote ="Zeus The Saint"Far too lighyweight and slow. We need a 6 with a running game outside Walsh. O Brien is not our man IMO.'"
He doesnt look slow to me and as for lightweight he is a halfback not a prop . There is an obsession in the modern game that every player should be built like a tank, there's more than one way to score tries as we have proved over the years - barging over the top of people is just the most obvious and blunt way. Having players with footwork and craft is what we need at club and international level. Percival is not the biggest but he has outstanding footwork as has Lomax
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Is anyone else worried that Adam Swift is going to go to waste?
The clubs persistance with the likes of Wellens and Gardner seems to be hampering him more than others.'"
What has this got to do with O'Brien?
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