not seen much on the Gaskell/Howarth deal.I know its season long but what will the situation be when Robes get back in the team.Howarth to go back to Salford & Lee back to Saints when the seson is done,hope so.Lomax & Gaskell played well together.I hope Lee wants to come back.I hope Saints want him back.

He won't be coming back any time soon.

It's a deal until the end of the season. I think saints will then let Gaskell leave the club and Howarth will go back to Salford.

Think we need to bring a other hooker in or one of the youths like we did with Roby ,

If Nathan Brown is still coaching Saints next season Gaskell will be gone.

I don't think Salford want Howarth back for next year, with their 6 new exciting signiings coming up.
Whilst I applaud him for his effort for us, he is basically a piece of band aid.

Personally I would like Gaskell back and hope he can make up his differences with NB and the Club.

Obviously Gaskell will be gone as Brown going nowhere.

Gaskell won't be playing for us or saints next season he signed for someone else and howarth won't return to us we have Godwin Owen and foran who are all better than him . Gaskell problem ain't Nathan brown its with your CEO

That I can believe.

And that I don't Believe

I heard the same and this come off a first team player Gaskell would still be playing for us If it wasn't for rush

He will not be back. I don't think it's a good thing, but he's gone and there is no point dwelling on it.

We have to look to the future and for me it's Lance and Wheeler for 2014, if Wheeler can't cement a place, then we buy a 6 for 2015.

I've also heard from a good source it is our CEO.
(I justcan't get over he is the CEO !)

Gaskells problem isn't Rush, Brown, Simmons, Potter or the boogeyman. Gaskells problem is himself.

heard some interesting stories to back that from a former ceo

Wish some one would spill the beans , I'm one nosy bugger at the min ,

Cool, PM me with them. I love a good gossip.

That's the party line anyway.

I'd want Gaskell back, but I don't think he will return. Howarth's done an alright job for us, but I wouldn't want him to stay any longer than the end of the season.

I never want to see the gazelle Gaskell in a Saints shirt again why! Because he thinks he is a world beater in the Garry Schofield mould who is not in the team for defence. When have you ever heard players break ranks about their own. Senior players have questioned his preparation. The Coaching staff don't want him. In the normal world of work this means you move on. I stood in the rain at Odsal and looked at him and Foster and just wished they were not in a Saints starting 13 ever again. Yes we can go on about Perry and Lance but they are just passing through. These other lads are what you build a team around. Percival I can see it happening Lomax like Roby it is in place, Walmsley it will be in place. Gaskell and Foster lets be proud we brought them through and remember Rush didn't throw them out as youngsters it was they that did not kick on. Rush is a senior manager at the club that is an organisational decision which I respect and wish him well.

Christ what are you Rush's Love Child!!!

If the problem was Rush then Gaskells problems would not be continuing into this season. Rush is not in charge of first team affairs, that's Brown. If Gaskell was playing well then he'd be in, personal problems with Rush or not.

I'm sure I have seen reports recently referring Rush in conncetion with player recruitment. Both Brown and Rush were mentioned in relation to Walmsley, for example.

Also, do you remember when our previous CEO left? Saints put out a press release containing a statement from McManus who reorganised his senior management team following the CEO's departure stating that he would have a more 'hands on' approach from then on. Included in that statement was the point that the coach would now be directly accountable to him, McManus. The implication was that the coach was previously accountable to the CEO. I think it would be safe to surmise that now we have a new CEO, the coach will be accountable to him rather than to McManus.

I would expect signings to be made by consensus, that is not uncommon. Whilst the coach may be accountable to the CEO, I would be surprised if the CEO is involved in the day to day running of the team.

Clubs are large organisations and there will always be some people who don't get on, it would be more surprising if everyone got on. If Gaskell had been performing to a decent standard, he would still be here, players who perform are always given leeway for other issues. Brown picked him at the start of the season, but he didn't take his chance on the pitch. Given the state of the squad, there must be far more than just a dislike of Gaskell by Rush for him to be binned off like he has been.

I would agree with you but for his performances under Simmons. Had he been ditched by Simmons as well as Rush and Brown then concluding there was a question mark over Gaskell himself would be pretty much inevitable. However, that wasn't the case. So I'm not convinced.

Either way, the matter is moot. We've left ourselves without any recognisable halfback. That alone shows crass stupidity in my book, even if Gaskell did have problems or wasn't of the standard. The lad is out of contract this season anyway. To leave ourselves without a single fit recognised halfback is just plain idiotic.