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| Had a great game tonight and deserves a lot of credit. Seemed to have a hand in everything both defensively and offensively. Seemed to take a far more direct approach in attack after Jonny asked him to.
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| Decent game and it's good to see his effort is continuing. Although I don't rate him and I think he's been poor, you can't fault his commitment.
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| 100% effort from and Lance it was an improvement but for me he'll never be a halfback. Just not quick enough when under pressure for me. Would be great as an extra pivot from fullback though .....
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| Looked hugely fired up.
Maybe Gaskell hovering around on the fringes has got him looking over his shoulder.
Hope so.
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| He played very well to tonight, it was good seeing him take the mine on for his try.
I think Perry deserves a big shout tonight, he put himself about a run strong.
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| Looked hugely fired up.
Maybe Gaskell hovering around on the fringes has got him looking over his shoulder.
Hope so.
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| Well I thought he played well as a halfback tonight. If you check back on my comments in the past, I've not been an admirer, but I have to call it good when I see it and this can sit quite nicely alongside the Leeds game for him, but in a different type of game.
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| Quote ="St pete"He played very well to tonight, it was good seeing him take the mine on for his try.
I think Perry deserves a big shout tonight, he put himself about a run strong.'"
Definitely agree about Perry. Without him tonight we would have been lost against a big aggressive pack.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Definitely agree about Perry. Without him tonight we would have been lost against a big aggressive pack.'"
And that's my point with Laffranchi at prop, he can't compete with big physical packs. He's had a ok season and gives 100% but in these games it shows he's a backrow playing prop.
Sia played well when he came on. Why is he on the bench?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well I thought he played well as a halfback tonight. If you check back on my comments in the past, I've not been an admirer, but I have to call it good when I see it and this can sit quite nicely alongside the Leeds game for him, but in a different type of game.'"
I do think he was vastly improved but my comment still stands , in the Leeds game you mentioned he had acres of space and he looked good.
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| Quote ="St pete"And that's my point with Laffranchi at prop, he can't compete with big physical packs. He's had a ok season and gives 100% but in these games it shows he's a backrow playing prop.
Sia played well when he came on. Why is he on the bench?'"
I'm guessing they wanted Sia for impact when TP and Perry came off. Was he playing at prop today he defended very central?
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I do think he was vastly improved but my comment still stands , in the Leeds game you mentioned he had acres of space and he looked good.'"
I agree, he's to slow at halfback, I don't mean as in pace, it's his speed of thought and basically lack of rugby brain.
I've played stand off most my life and was always taught to play with my head up and play what I see, lance certainly plays with his head up but it seems to take a eternity for his brain to trigger what he sees.
I think years of playing fullback, where the is more space doesn't help as he needs to play when the aint space.
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| Quote ="St pete"I agree, he's to slow at halfback, I don't mean as in pace, it's his speed of thought and basically lack of rugby brain.
I've played stand off most my life and was always taught to play with my head up and play what I see, lance certainly plays with his head up but it seems to take a eternity for his brain to trigger what he sees.
I think years of playing fullback, where the is more space doesn't help as he needs to play when the aint space.'"
I agree, I think playing at fullback he would have space similar to that against Leeds most weeks and he would be able to influence the game far more just like Tomkins does at W***n
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'm guessing they wanted Sia for impact when TP and Perry came off. Was he playing at prop today he defended very central?'"
Sia should be starting, he can play long mind and has been out best forward this year and brings aggression that we lack.
Put lazy bones TP on the bench and let him impact the game.
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| Lazy bones?
I think the big plus for Lance is that this was a tough close game. He certainly put himself into the game and made an impact. He turned us around after we had been pummelled for 10 minutes.
That's what we want from a half back is'nt it, not just a halfback who can play behind a dominate pack, but a half who can take control and impact on a game when it's more even.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Lazy bones?
I think the big plus for Lance is that this was a tough close game. He certainly put himself into the game and made an impact. He turned us around after we had been pummelled for 10 minutes.
That's what we want from a half back is'nt it, not just a halfback who can play behind a dominate pack, but a half who can take control and impact on a game when it's more even.'"
TP is lazy in the backrow and goes missing.
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| Quote ="St pete"TP is lazy in the backrow and goes missing.'"
I agree.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I agree.'"
I noticed this in his very first season, if he's in the backrow he's lazy and goes missing, if he's put in a prop he can't go missing as easy.
IMO hes a prop, hes played his best rugby at prop and can be devastating if he get more ball. we've got LMS and clough to give him rests.
We are putting sia on the bench to accomadate TP in the backrow and we lose the all action player that sia is.
I'd even play Laffranchi in backrow before TP.
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| Quote ="St pete"I noticed this in his very first season, if he's in the backrow he's lazy and goes missing, if he's put in a prop he can't go missing as easy.
IMO hes a prop, hes played his best rugby at prop and can be devastating if he get more ball. we've got LMS and clough to give him rests.
We are putting sia on the bench to accomadate TP in the backrow and we lose the all action player that sia is.
I'd even play Laffranchi in backrow before TP.'"
I Agree TP is far more effective at prop. Saying that I still think Sia will find a natural home at prop
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I Agree TP is far more effective at prop. Saying that I still think Sia will find a natural home at prop
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I posted that sia would end up a prop last season. I still think he's a backrow at the moment tho.
He's added few yards of pace to his game this year and is much faster than I thought he was.
Sia has had very good season.
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| Well they do say brown likes to tinker so maybe he will switch la franki and TP.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well they do say brown likes to tinker so maybe he will switch la franki and TP.'"
It will be interesting what our pack looks like next year under Brown.
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| Quote ="St pete"It will be interesting what our pack looks like next year under Brown.'"
Hopefully not as pathetic as Hudds did at the end , Gilmour at prop ??????????
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Hopefully not as pathetic as Hudds did at the end , Gilmour at prop ??????????'"
I don't think he will have to do stuff like that at saints as we've got better depth and better quality of players.
I'll be interested to see how he sees TP, will he be prop or backrow?
If he sees him as a second row, that will see sia, Manu and TP fighting for the secondrow spots.
Could Sia play 13 or will have wilkin as a extra ball player?
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| Lance was very much improved. It was good to see him playing with a bit of aggression and taking the line on. We still desperately lack a kicking game when him and Lomax play together, though.
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