Just seen a tweet from Saints to say that there is no news on Robes yet but he is going for a scan tomorrow and it 'could be bad'.

Thanks McGilveray (I think it was).

Not good news.

As our fantastic coach says, choke roby and we in trouble .

God help us now, I'd move lance there.

We are in another season of malaise and weren't going to win anything anyway.

That's true and I'd honestly send this idiot back home before he does more damage.

Any ideas what he could have done? What area seemed to be causing him trouble?

Never underestimate your team. The way you lot are going on, you'll probably make the grand final again.

Just seen another tweet from Saints in that they are keeping everything crossed for just a straightforward muscle injury. It was his knee. But if it was muscle only then he could still be out for 'a few weeks'.

They are awful tho mate.

Everything from recruitment, preparation to now has been shocking!

You got back quick from Hudds Pete.

Didn't go my love, my team had a game so didn't make it. I knew we'd lose anyway.

I've spoke and txt with people who did go and they said it was an improvement but still poor.

Its not just about today's performance tho is it, we've been crap in our four games before this and plus we was poor in our one and only practice match.

While the likes of Wigan, Leeds and Warrington had a pre season of training and practice games, we was resting!

On the subject of Roby being injured, i actually thought Lance played very well at hooker and moved us around the park very well.

Infact i think Lance is a bit cuter in the head than Roby from dummy half, in that he appeared to read the game better.

Going forward i would be tempted to have Lance in at hooker and play Roby at loose forward.

You have a short memory Pete. Remember last season? We were crap for the first third of it. I think we got two from six against Hudds, Wigan and Wire didn't we? And people were prophesying the end of the world then too but we still got to a GF. Might have won it too had we not had three injuries in ten minutes.

I didn't go to the match either but listened to Wish FM commentary, which is good. Our ball retention was poor in the second half, our discipline was poor throughout but our defence improved massively. Our senior players appear to be the problem, Shenny and Meli dropping ball with the line begging, for instance. Gaskell made one error with a kick which gave them their final try. Lomax kicked out on the full and missed the final conversion. All things that can be addressed, just as the defence was clearly addressed this last week. We will click, just as we clicked last season.

At least if Robes is out injured long term we have a first class replacement for him in Hohaia.

Lomax said in an interview recently that Lance has crafty plays and has already taught him some. Also, I remember once reading that Lance was a 'revelation' at hooker when played there.

Last year was last year and we can't just think it will pan out the same.

Just got off the phone to one of my "buddies" and he's said laffranchci was top class today and best game he's had in saints shirt. Roby on crutches and strapped from calf to his thigh.

He also said that it's got to the point where we can't even put a kick in on last play and we are not creative enough in those 20.

He also suggested he'd like to see lance at scrum half with Gaskell and lomax fullback. (if robes is fit)

You do know that means dropping Wellens don't you?

The medical team are hopeful that Roby has a slight tear in his quad, just above the knee and nothing more serious. If that's the case it could be a couple weeks rest, best case scenario.

Whatever the injury is, let's not rush him back. Give him time to heal.

Definitely, Hohaia will be no slouch as a replacement.

Hohaia played well at hooker as replacement for Roby one of the positives aspects we can take out of today's match so no worries there if roby is out for a few weeks .What really miffed me why no drop goal on the last play no "LEADERSHIP " and we had the position to do it

Yes and I wasn't me that said it but I do agree

Very true, I was thinking the same. It may have been a better option to go for the drop goal and settle for the draw.

this is what we all feared would happen eventually.Without Roby the team has no go forward. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

this is what we all feared would happen eventually.Without Roby the team has no go forward. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

I don't see losing Roby as a massive issue. Sure, he generates impressive stats. But stats are often highly misleading. For instance, they say nothing about [iquality[/i of distribution out of dummy half. If Roby has a weakness - and I'd say it's a fairly large one - it's that he's never been a great thinker in the mould of a Buderus or a Lowes.

Yes, we will undoubtedly take a knock in terms of yardage. But if someone like Hohaia or perhaps Wilkin can provide just that bit better service out of the ruck we may do ok.

I think it's a massive blow, most things we do well in attack come from robys scoots and breaks that put the other team on the back foot.

Even Royce has said that and if he can see it then it's obvious.

Do you think LH and Wheeler can do a good job at hooker?