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Tomkins favourite to be Man of Steel, with Roby just behind him. Wellens at 14-1 might surprise a few of his doubters on here, and two of Saints new boys in the top 10, in Hohaia and Laffranchi
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Tomkins favourite to be Man of Steel, with Roby just behind him. Wellens at 14-1 might surprise a few of his doubters on here, and two of Saints new boys in the top 10, in Hohaia and Laffranchi
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| no such thing as a poor bookie
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| I am surprised wilkin isn't there, am expecting a big season from him this year
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I am surprised wilkin isn't there, am expecting a big season from him this year'"
He will be in there, along with a whole lot of other players. Obviousley there are not just 10 players eligible to win MOS. They are just selected odds not the full list of odds. Don't know where the full list is though, I'm sure someone will point you in the right direction.
My guess is he will be about 18/20 to 1.
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| Surprised at Wellens!
Lockers is in for a good season IMO. He played too much of a defensively orientated game last year, but hopefully under Wane he'll be aloud a little more free reign to express his offensive side.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Surprised at Wellens!
Lockers is in for a good season IMO. He played too much of a defensively orientated game last year, but hopefully under Wane he'll be aloud a little more free reign to express his offensive side.'"
Why are you shocked at wello being in there? I take it, it's because of his lack of pace but then tip the slowest player in super league for a big year.
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| Quote ="St pete"
Why are you shocked at wello being in there? I take it, it's because of his lack of pace but then tip the slowest player in super league for a big year.'"
If Lockers played at FB as Wellens does then rightfully so I'd be concerned. But seeing as he plays LF where speed isn't as vital, it's not a concern of mine.
Anyway where's this notion that Lockers is the slowest in SL come from? I'd argue completely the opposite. For a forward Sean's always one of the first to be supporting a break. In fact I can think of at least three try's from this year that Lockers has scored from thirty meters out or more.
I'd hazard a guess that he'll be faster than the guy playing LF for you next year, Laffranchi.
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| And I would hazard a guess that Laffranchi wont be playing at loose forward for Saints next season.
Wilkin will.
Laffranchi, Perry, McCarthy-Scarsbrook and Clough will rotate at prop.
Soliola, Flannery, Flanagan, Wilkin, Dixon and Puletua will rotate the back row.
Then theres Magennis who can cover any pack position bar hooker and Carl Forster, who I believe is being tipped as the next big thing at prop.
Come what may, Saints have too many back rowers for Laffranchi to be needed to play there.
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| With fuel prices so high maybe you should consider getting a stack of £20 notes and burning them. Alternatively you could put it on Wellens to win MoS and buy a gas heater with your winnings. It's a hard choice between the two.
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| Tomkins is a good bet for MoS which is why the short odds. Roby does a lot of the hard work which is overlooked a lot of times so I would not invest my money in him. Monaghan is another good player who does not get the credit he deserves, that would have to change for him to get noticed.
Best putting your money on an outsider Lomax could be a good bet. Young Players of the year have done well at MoS in recent years.
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| I wonder what odds you could get on Lomax? Might be a cheeky outside bet if you could get 50/1 upwards.
I can't believe they're offering Brough and Peacock at tsuch short odds. Can't see many people taking that up.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal" Roby does a lot of the hard work which is overlooked a lot of times so I would not invest my money in him. '"
Seriously? He gets overlooked but yet he's already won it and been nominated a couple of times?
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I am surprised wilkin isn't there, am expecting a big season from him this year'"
you are Jonny Vegas and I claim my £5
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| Quote ="inside_man"Seriously? He gets overlooked but yet he's already won it and been nominated a couple of times?
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Yes winning the regular season metres made table by a country mile and doing 40 tackles a match will get you nominated. But does he have a silly Benji Marshall side step and throw wild speculative passes without looking? that is what gets you the big prize these days.
If Roby can't win the MOS in 2011 doing what he was doing then he never will (again). He needs to half his minutes on the field and make more runs regardless of if there is anything on. You know, get some novelty back into his game.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal". But does he have a silly Benji Marshall??? or a side step and throw wild speculative passes without looking? that is what gets you the big prize these days.quote
Yes because there are super league players doing that on a regular basis. I do not think so !!!
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| Roby is a victim of his own high standard isn't he. Probably needs to score some speculation try's to get noticed more.
If Wilkin ups his game to another level, he might have an outside chance.
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| Wilkin gets a raw deal. England’s stand out back rower (they fell apart when he went off in the final) but probably the least rated. A great playmaker, dangerous runner and a Trojan in defence. He gets overlooked by his own fans at Saints so what is the chance that people outside of St.Helens are going to take notice.
Remember it is not who will be the best player, it’s who is the most popular. Wilkins has the ability to string sentences together without saying "ye know" or "meert" every other word, or to not just give "we completed our sets" as the answer to every question. Therefore he does not have the Forest Gump lovability of a Peacock or a Westwood you need to be popular.
A none starter for MoS sadly.
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I have corrected it now. "It should have said silly Benji Marshall side step." not sure where the ??? came from.
Cheers
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| There is one thing you can definately put money on,but you wont get very good odds that once again it will not be a Leeds player.Since 2004 not one Leeds player has got a look in,When Gaz Ellis got overlooked one great year, it has never hung well with me
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| Chase is 4th favourite at 10/1, he will have a lot better chance of winning it in 2013 when he has quality around him.
Just saying thats all
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