Saints won today 40 plus points to 12. Keeps us at the top of the table with Hull KR.

Lewis 'dougie' Charnock
Tom Roughley
Greg Richards

All made there u18's debut after moving up from the 16's. It was Charnocks first game for 12 months and he was very good.

Saints far too good once again at this level.

How is the boy Brotherton doing? He looked a likely lad in the youtube videos of him playing for Northampton.

Brotherton is with the U20's and is doing ok. It's a team that as no consistency because of the first team injuries.

Interesting that Saints have just signed another lad from Northampton for our U15 scholarship team for next season. Apparantly he is a very good player.

According to the Official site the final score was
Saints 50 -12 Cas
That puts us top of the league with 18points Hull KR are second with 17
Wigan are in 9th place with 10 points.

Putting Antipodean over 30s ahead of developing the kids again I see. I wonder what Rogues' excuse is for this failure?

I'm sure he said a while back that they were a poor crop of youngsters this time. I've just posted on the cherry and white about it. Their team just won today 24-20 v Hull

As I've just explained on the Wigan site in answer to AM's post. Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There are no league tables for the U18's, and there is no play off competition, same as last year, stupid idea imo. It's supposed to help younger players develop their skills rather than be competitive (don't shoot the messenger) The U18's have been poor for the last two seasons at Wigan due mainly to low recruitment and the fact that the better players get pushed straight into the U20's. Now if you want to compare those teams then there are league tables published, with Wigan and Wire fighting it out for top spot. Wigan have lost two games and Wire three, Saints I don't think will make the play offs. (top six) www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_table'"

As I've just explained on the Wigan site in answer to AM's post. Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There are no league tables for the U18's, and there is no play off competition, same as last year, stupid idea imo. It's supposed to help younger players develop their skills rather than be competitive (don't shoot the messenger) The U18's have been poor for the last two seasons at Wigan due mainly to low recruitment and the fact that the better players get pushed straight into the U20's. Now if you want to compare those teams then there are league tables published, with Wigan and Wire fighting it out for top spot. Wigan have lost two games and Wire three, Saints I don't think will make the play offs. (top six) www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_table'"

Has the tour squad to Australia been named yet ?

Not sure, but the first time Rogues went on tour a chap named Cook was the Captain, (of the ship)

Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though.




If you look on the official Saints site they have a league table which shows Saints top and Wigan 9th.

They have a "star"(expensive) Antipodean playing in the u 20's by the name of Amos Roberts!

The Saints u 18's are a very good crop of youngsters & most of them are only 17 & most of them are signed up. They are touring Australia in Oct/Nov. The majority of the team have come through from Portico u 16's & were National Champions last year, being coached by one Bernard Dwyer.

Get him back at Saints. lol

Quote ="Agent Mulder"Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though. If you look on the official Saints site they have a league table which shows Saints top and Wigan 9th.'" I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels?

Quote ="Agent Mulder"Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though. If you look on the official Saints site they have a league table which shows Saints top and Wigan 9th.'" I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels?

Just accept the reality Rogues: our u18s blow yours out of the water. If the group stays together, they may even beat you in an u20s Grand Final! (Assuming your group is ever good enough to get there, obviously!)

The australian tourist team is on a new topic on the st helens forum page if you have a look

You're picking out the fact that you have better U18's than us. Okay then we'll mention that our 20's and first team are better than you. So were our scholarship teams...

Hmm no replies anyone?

The U18's is always a strange competition. It depends many times on the age of the players. Some teams may have as many as eight or more first year 16 year olds in their side playing against a team with eight or more third year 18 players. It makes a huge difference, particularly in the forwards and that's why you see results start to change towards the end of the season as the first year players start to develop physically. Then about this time of year you get the next intake of young players who may (or may not) be better than the previous incumbents.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels? '" Just Looked at the u18s Table on the Saints website and you have got Cas down as losing 5 games infact they have lost only 3 look at the results on the rlf site.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels? '" Just Looked at the u18s Table on the Saints website and you have got Cas down as losing 5 games infact they have lost only 3 look at the results on the rlf site.

Rogues has a tendency to make things up as he goes along.

Which proves the point I made initially that there is no official table for the U18's



So who is making things up?

The RFL, The League Express and the League weekly do NOT produce U18 League tables (as I previously stated)

Rogues is right, there isnt a "competition table" at the 18's. Would pointless really as not all teams play each other and with some squads having a high turn over of players it wouldn't really give a good insight into each respective teams.