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1. Paul Wellens, 3. Michael Shenton, 4. Sia Soliola, 5. Francis Meli, 6. Leon Pryce, 7. Kyle Eastmond, 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham, 11. Tony Puletua, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Chris Flannery, 14. Scott Moore, 15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 19. Andrew Dixon, 20. Jonny Lomax, 21. Shaun Magennis, 22. Jamie Foster, 25. Lee Gaskell, 28. Thomas Makinson.
Paul Wellens' selection in place of Matty Ashurst is the only difference from the one that lined up to face Catalans last week.
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1076
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1. Paul Wellens, 3. Michael Shenton, 4. Sia Soliola, 5. Francis Meli, 6. Leon Pryce, 7. Kyle Eastmond, 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham, 11. Tony Puletua, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Chris Flannery, 14. Scott Moore, 15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 19. Andrew Dixon, 20. Jonny Lomax, 21. Shaun Magennis, 22. Jamie Foster, 25. Lee Gaskell, 28. Thomas Makinson.
Paul Wellens' selection in place of Matty Ashurst is the only difference from the one that lined up to face Catalans last week.
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1076
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| Dixon and Wello to miss out, for me.
Give the auld lad another week of recovery.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Dixon and Wello to miss out, for me.
Give the auld lad another week of recovery.'"
Totally agree, Kyle doesn't deserve to be dropped
7. Kyle Eastmond,
28. Thomas Makinson,
3. Michael Shenton,
5. Francis Meli,
22. Jamie Foster,
25. Lee Gaskell,
20. Jonny Lomax,
10. James Graham,
9. James Roby,
15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook,
4. Sia Soliola,
12. Jon Wilkin,
11. Tony Puletua,
6. Leon Pryce,
13. Chris Flannery,
14. Scott Moore,
21. Shaun Magennis.
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"Totally agree, Kyle doesn't deserve to be dropped
7. Kyle Eastmond,
28. Thomas Makinson,
3. Michael Shenton,
5. Francis Meli,
22. Jamie Foster,
25. Lee Gaskell,
20. Jonny Lomax,
10. James Graham,
9. James Roby,
15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook,
4. Sia Soliola,
12. Jon Wilkin,
11. Tony Puletua,
6. Leon Pryce,
13. Chris Flannery,
14. Scott Moore,
21. Shaun Magennis.'"
That's a very able 17 to take on HKR. I'm looking forward to Sunday.
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| I think the team will be
1 wellens
2 makinson
3 shenton
4 meli
5 foster
6 gaskell
7 lomax
8 graham
9 roby
10 lms
11 wilkin
12 flannery
13 tony p
14 moore
15 sia
16 magennis
17 pryce
Eastmond and dixon to miss out
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| Quote ="1984saints"Eastmond to miss out'" How could you justify dropping Eastmond, given his recent contribution?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"How could you justify dropping Eastmond, given his recent contribution?'" i wouldnt drop eastmond but it what i think royce will do
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"How could you justify dropping Eastmond, given his recent contribution?'"
There is a lot more to being fullback than being able to sprint and dodge a bit. Kyle is a great attacking player but he has deficiencies and this is knock out rugby. We need someone who can read the game very well, position himself very well, commit to death defying try saving tackles AND be on the shoulder of the attacking players (which Wello always is).
Assuming Wello is properly fit then he is a far better fullback than Kyle Eastmond.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"There is a lot more to being fullback than being able to sprint and dodge a bit. Kyle is a great attacking player but he has deficiencies and this is knock out rugby. We need someone who can read the game very well, position himself very well, commit to death defying try saving tackles AND be on the shoulder of the attacking players (which Wello always is).
Assuming Wello is properly fit then he is a far better fullback than Kyle Eastmond.'"
The is a lot more to being a good fullback than being good in defence. Wello is a great defensive fullback but has deficiencies with his awful attack.
Sunday is knock out rugby and I'd imagine Morgan is keeling his fingers crossed that wello plays. Dobsons kicking game will show wello up rotten and they will be looking to turn our very slow fullback around and pin us deep in our own half.
Kyle has played well and don't deserve to be dropped just because wello is wello.
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| Why don't we just strap them together and call them wellmond. Eastmond can do all the running and Wellens can tell him where to stand and just flip him around to tackle the big blokes.
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| Quote ="St pete"Kyle has played well and don't deserve to be dropped just because wello is wello.'"
I doubt very much that Kyle not playing at fullback (he can't be dropped from a position that was never his in the first place) is anything to do with Wello being Wello. It will be more to do with the strengths that Wello brings to the game. Strengths which Kyle does not have.
And the idea is for us to be aggressive enough in defence to keep HKR's kickers far enough away from our redzone not to create a problem. Our forwards have been pathetic for most of this season and our defence slack to say the least. The former should bring some aggression to the party for once and the latter is everybody's job.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I doubt very much that Kyle not playing at fullback (he can't be dropped from a position that was never his in the first place) is anything to do with Wello being Wello. It will be more to do with the strengths that Wello brings to the game. Strengths which Kyle does not have.
And the idea is for us to be aggressive enough in defence to keep HKR's kickers far enough away from our redzone not to create a problem. Our forwards have been pathetic for most of this season and our defence slack to say the least. The former should bring some aggression to the party for once and the latter is everybody's job.'"
So the position is only Paul wellens's until a fullback arrives? Nobody can take any position unless they are that position?
Utter crap!
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| Quote ="St pete"So the position is only Paul wellens's until a fullback arrives? Nobody can take any position unless they are that position? '"
Kyle is not only our no.7 but a no.7 who is leaving the club. He is defensively rubbish and would be a liability, especially given our generally lax attitude towards defence overall and our mushy forwards. You have had your head turned by a bloke who can run fast and step. You are forgotting he can't defend for toffee.
Quote Utter crap!'"
Yes, you really need to stop talking it.
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| Think wellens will be outside the 17. Royce will only put one back on the bench which will be Pryce, who will cover stand off and full back position. Wellens probably will only play if Eastmond is not performing, which at the moment is not the case.
Can see some future games Wellens will get his shirt back, Pryce will get his shirt back, with Eastmond on the bench at the expense of Gaskell, who by then will be outside of the 17. Barring injuries of course.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Kyle is not only our no.7 but a no.7 who is leaving the club. He is defensively rubbish and would be a liability, especially given our generally lax attitude towards defence overall and our mushy forwards. You have had your head turned by a bloke who can run fast and step. You are forgotting he can't defend for toffee.
Yes, you really need to stop talking it.'"
So basically you basing your point on him not being at saints next year? Well neither is jammer.
Eastmond, love him or hate him is a very very talented young player. He has the world at his feet in either code if he applies himself how he can. He's got a lot more than just " running fast and a step".
Wello got hurt, eastmond came in and has played well enough IMO to warrant his place. Kyle has waited for his chance from when he was dripped and took it well.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Think wellens will be outside the 17. Royce will only put one back on the bench which will be Pryce, who will cover stand off and full back position. Wellens probably will only play if Eastmond is not performing, which at the moment is not the case.
Can see some future games Wellens will get his shirt back, Pryce will get his shirt back, with Eastmond on the bench at the expense of Gaskell, who by then will be outside of the 17. Barring injuries of course.'"
Righly or wrongly Royce will pick wello on Sunday if he's fit.
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| Get a room you 2.
Personally I think Eastmond will get the nod on Sunday
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| If Wellens defence had been reliable this year I could understand some of the points on here, but he's had a poor season let's be honest both offensively and defensively. It may well have been that his injury has restricted him but he hasn't looked anywhere near as effective this year.
Eastmond's last few performances have been a higher standard than Wellens has been able to produce this year and for that he gets the nod for me, although I'm not sure Royce will see it the same.
My side would be:
Eastmond
Makinson
Shenton
Meli
Foster
Gaskell
Lomax
Graham
Roby
LMS
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Get a room you 2.
Personally I think Eastmond will get the nod on Sunday'"
Would you like to join us if we get a room?
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| Quote ="1984saints"i wouldnt drop eastmond but it what i think royce will do'"
I agree, wellens will get his place back, so eastmond's bench place will depend if pryce is fit to start the game. If he is I see eastmond on bench with Gaskell to miss out. Otherwise eastmond will lose out. Harsh but think Royce will go with it
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Otherwise eastmond will lose out. Harsh but think Royce will go with it'"
Why is it harsh? Eastmond is leaving us. It is far more important for Gaskell to get game time than Eastmond because Gaskell is with us next season.
If Wello returns with his early season form, he will be fantastic for us on Sunday.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Why is it harsh? Eastmond is leaving us. It is far more important for Gaskell to get game time than Eastmond because Gaskell is with us next season.'"
You pick the best team regardless, it's not about being sentimental and looking to build for years down the line. If Gaskell is good enough to get in, he'll get in on merit, same with Eastmond.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"You pick the best team regardless'"
Exactly. Hence my preference for Wello at fullback in a knock out game.
But it isn't 'harsh' to drop Eastmond, which was the point I was responding to, because he won't be here next season and it is therefore more important that our halves who WILL be here next season get game time together while they can.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"But it isn't 'harsh' to drop Eastmond, which was the point I was responding to, because he won't be here next season and it is therefore more important that our halves who WILL be here next season get game time together while they can.'"
This is where I differ. The last few games, Eastmond's form HAS warranted selection at full back.
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| Drop Wellens. He's been a bag of turd recently. The fact that he's a club legend and I'd eat his ear wax if asked me to has nothing to do with it.
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