I am sick and tired of being "Proud" of the effort, although to be fair the defensive effort wasnt really there in the second half today. I am sick and tired of hearing about injuries and I am especially sick of reading on twitter about the new clique #rehabwolfpack. to me that smacks of comfort, its a group of players who are comfortable and to me dont appear to be putting enogh effort into getting themselves back into the team.

Fairplay to Flannel for trying today but what ARE our physios doing - they certainly aren't getting players ready to play. It's about time we had some honesty about WHEN we are going to see some of our senior players back. The physios say its all contact injuries but Kyle's certainly cant be classed as impact - but isnt there a bit of a vested interest from the physios to say its not their fault. We NEVER had this crisis when Apollo was our conditioner.

The kids need a rest - some of the seniors need a rest but it's not going to happen until some of these guys get their backsides onto the pitch - and the longer this goes on the worse it will get.

Really? Or is it a group of players dealing with the frustration of the situation their are in. Gallows humour and that.

And how can a player put effort into coming back? Particularly when said effort could potentially lead to worsening any injury?

We are not the only team with injuries - We are the ONLY team (from what I can see) that have their own twitter group of injured players!

Do you think that there are not players in other teams that are playing when they shouldnt be?

Why are we the ONLY team where players take longer to come back than the estimates - Both Maguire and Peacock were not due back till June but their team needed them!

Steve sounds like he's howling to the moon, which I can understand.

If that means I'm frustrated because we can do SOOOOO much better if we get some bodies back, then I am.

Yes, that is what it means.

As royce has said, they looked at every possible reasons why we have this injury situation but can't put his finger on it as they ain't all the same type of injury.

Last year potter was to blame but we've had the same problems under Royce so it can't be down to the coach. Both potter and Royce have both backed their medical staff so could it just be down to pure bad luck?

Maybe a change of the medical staff to see if new ideas change our injury situation.

Sounds like you need a new conditioner

It's got to be worth a try.

Not strictly true. If you remember, last season the quad injury was the injury to have. As Royce has also said, if our players were going down with quad or hamstring injuries, then that is something they could change. Under Potter a lot of our injuries were muscle based injuries. That isn't so this time. Some are, but very few.

Yes but we still having massive injury problems which in fact are worse than last year.

Yep, Maguire came back early 'because his team needed him' ...Now remind me, where is he now, after one game back?

Different injury - which could stike any player - now remind me about Leon last played a game in August 2010, came back for 4 minutes in France and got a different injury. Injuries do strike and there is nothing we can do about it the extra week Royce gave him helped didn't it!

I want a hit on steve's crack pipe. He's rewriting medicine one post at a time!

How am I re writing medicine exactly?

According to the Leeds site, he's only got a thigh strain. That could have happened whenever he returned as he's been out for months. We've got some revolving door patients too. But others, like Jammer, can (or will?) play through it.

Rushing players back is not gonna solve anything. Think Flannery breaking down today before he got out of 1st gear proves the point!

we CANNOT be accused of rushing anyone back.

Er, the problem was with his calf. He played last week, remember. And was out with a hamstring problem until last week. I suppose a calf problem could be related to a hamstring problem.

Some players are going to be playing injured. That's unavoidable. Every team has those players, but especially teams who have players with broken bones and injuries that need operations. The 'bumps and bruises' brigade have to get injections and get on to the pitch.

Magennis was playing with a broken nose and recovering dislocated finger at one point. I think he had his best game at first grade today.

Flannery played last week so it wasnt a case of rushing him back. He's been out injured so very commen to pick up niggly injuries.

get apollo back..he had em fit.

I think the guys are fit - its just that they dont come back from injury and that is down to the conditioners and the physios and the other support staff

I think we need a big



DON'T PANIC.




Lets not get our knickers in a twist, we are 18 points, that's 2 behind the top 3. There are alot of games to go and we are not that far off. Huddersfield are not a team of also ran's they are contenders for the big prize and we where holding them for alot of the game.

What really get's my back up are the people in the crowd today who were turning on the team, the players the coach and the board after a bad game. People lose their heads quite quickly and like to find someone to blame, lets not forget Huddersfield have just had a poor run, this is not a league where you are going to get a consistent set of results. Any team can beat any team and tonight I think we just ran out of ideas and bodies.

From what I could see we lost Makinson and Perry, now if anyone wants to tell me how you condition against a broken hand in a player who has just joined a club, feel free to tell me how that's possible.

We shouldn't have abandoned the magic sponge. Clearly that is what is missing here. With the magic sponge, Perry's hand would have healed instantly!

I just think it's all very depressing. We have a team good enough to beat anyone but we can't watch them and Royce can't coach them. He has to keep picking up pieces and starting over again. It must be driving him nuts.

I stood and clapped the team off the pitch tonight as I have done at every game (apart from Catelans). It is not the players on the pitch that are the issue, its the fact that we have a group of palyers who are not on the pitch despite the fact that we desparately need some new bodies. The kids are exhausted they have been stretched too far too soon, the seniors are nackered because they are working harder than they should be and are now making mistakes. We need someone to stop what is happening and make a difference - I dont know where that is comming from. I'm not Panicing...