1 - Wellens 6/10 quality tackle to deny a try but looked pedestrian for the Hansen try, Meli's interaction or not he wasn't dealing with that kick
2 - Gardner 5/10. Got away with a Meli moment and should have done better in attempting to stop Hansen. Ran the ball hard as ever.
3 - Shenton 6/10. Quiet on debut but looks lively going forward. Some iffy defense down his side of the field for Carmont's stroll in.
4 - Lomax 5/10. Didn't notice he was on the field to be honest.
5 - Meli 7/10. Controversial I know. He's an idiot, but it's not his fault so I can't hate him for it anymore. Did well with the ball.
6 - Wheeler 5/10. Same as Lomax. Although to be fair whichever one of them was marking Gleeson did well defensively.
7 - Eastmond 5/10. Looked knackered throughout but didn't get injured. Minor miracle and still looks out most potent weapon although it wasn't his night. Has to hurry up on his stay/leave decision quickly so he can refocus on the rugby. Nearly cost us the game with his chip over the top late on when drilling it deep inside their half would have been the better option.
8 - Graham 7/10. Worked hard. Looks to have aged about 5 years since the GF. Looks like a man carrying the world on his shoulders. He needs to make his decision public and do it quickly.
9 - Roby 10/10. Just sensational I thought. I feel like I've done 12 rounds with Tyson just watching him. The Wigan players must hate playing against him.
10 - LMS 8/10. Quality I thought. A rich man's Bryn Hargreaves.
11 - Wilkin 9/10. Bloody sensational. All you haters can keep on hating. He's still fantastic and he's still gorgeous.
12 - Puletua 8/10. Quality for the try and a couple of offloads late on. Seemed to be in cruise control throughout.
13 - Soliola 5/10. Cost us their first try and knocked on from the next set. Seems really dumb as a player. Should be used as an impact player IMO.

14 - Dixon 6/10. Did fine, looked very lightweight
15 - Foster 5/10. Did nothing wrong but still can't kick goals.
16 - Moore 7/10. Worked tirelessly I thought.
17 - Clough 6/10. Quiet and reliable as ever.

I assume that was tongue in cheek.

No, he was. He was the driving force behind the unlikely comeback.

Allow me to moderate:



Other than that you are spot on!!

Wellens - 5/10. Other than a great tackle on Charnley, I thought he was a shadow tonight. Gets our sets off to pedestrian starts.
Gardner - 6/10. Average. Good first 20 mins but just faded into obscurity afterwards.
Shenton - 6.5/10. Solid and will do very well against most other defences in the league.
Lomax - 5/10. Low because other than the last 10 mins I can't recall him getting the ball!!
Meli - Difficult! Take away 'that' bomb and its 7/10, with that its closer to 5/10! We'd miss his yards if he's not there.
Wheeler - 6/10. Tried hard but lacking support in a disappointing backline. Stood too deep in attack.
Eastmond - 4/10. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, he mustn't be fit. Otherwise his effort was woeful. Should've got the drop goal!
Graham - 7/10. Not his best but still effective.
Roby - 10/10. Praise the lord for this 4 year contract! Out of this world in effort and impact.
LMS - 7/10. Won the collision several times. Great signing imho. Very mobile.
Soliola - 7/10. In attack he ran with venom and caused problems. Would like more minutes but the signs were good.
Wilkin - 6.5/10. Ran great lines, typical Wilkin. Felt he got in the way of some good opportunities in the 1st half.
Moore - 6.5/10. Not too bad. Still worry he'll throw a wayward ball though. Worked hard.

Clough - 6.5/10. Can't complain, never can, probably had better games but did nothing wrong.
Puletua - 6.5/10. Almost a 7 but maybe didn't quite do enough minutes to deserve it. Class player though.
Dixon - 5/10. I do like him but seems a bit submissive to me! Needs a bit more mongrel or ooomph!
Foster - 5/10. Not much chance to do much. Goal kicking is falling away at a worrying rate.

I agree with Saddened with the exception of Moore. I don't understand why we have him in the team. He adds nothing. He's too small for a forward, too slow for a back, and Roby is quite capable of playing the full 80. Moore is effectively a dead tackle with the ball. I thought his game was summed up at our first try. He was closest to the offload, but missed it because he'd turned his back on play, so Roby - far more alert - took the ball from further back and was offloading himself from the floor to put Wilkin in before Moore realised nobody was playing the ball.

I'm a bit worried about Lomax and Wheeler. I've not seen too much of them, as I only get to watch TV games, bu I've not yet seen either of them do anything which suggests they're any more competent than Ste Tyrer, Joey Hayes, Tim Jonkers etc. If they're our great hope, I hope they develop a bit more quickly than they seem to be doing.

Roby MoM for me, closely followed by Wilkin and Puletua. Apart from two chips, one of which he knocked on (unseen( and one of which was a terrible decision towards the end, Eastmond did nothing in that game except get caught out of position in defence, and walk two steps before passing the ball predictably. His worst performance in a Saints shirt that I've seen.

He was a fraction better than his usual crap self. Had a good 15 min spell in the second half but that's about it.

IMO he's not good enough. At times he looks like a little boy playing against men. The sooner his contract is up and he joins hull kr the better.

I've not read the rest of the posts from the one above that I'm quoting but somebody will say he ran good lines.

Wellens - 6/10 had a Ok game a great Tackle on Charnley
Gardner - 7/10 Ade worked harder than usual fade away in the 2 Half
Shenton - 6.5/10. Did alright looked abit nervous dropped the ball over the line in the 2 minute.
Lomax - 5/10. Needs to improve on his handling skills
Meli - 5/10 Meli Scored but needs to Catch the Ball!
Wheeler - 6.5/10. Had a OK game tried hard but just needs to be more comfortable with the ball
Eastmond - 4/10. Should have got the drop goal ! Is the Lad fit
Graham - 7/10. Not at his best V Wigan Sure he will improve for Salford.
Roby - 10/10.Amazing Great perfomance glad he has got a Four Year Deal
LMS - 8/10.Had a Good game a Great Signing Good Speed for a Prop
Soliola - 7/10. Ran Hard had a alright game also Dropped the Ball a good few time.
Wilkin - 6.5/10. Ran good lines, felt he got in the way of some good chances in the 1st half.
Moore - 6.5/10. Not too bad. Still worry he'll throw a wayward ball though. Worked hard.
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Clough - 6.5/10. Had a good game like he does all the time Runs hard and will not stop
Puletua - 6.5/10. Great Ball Handling skills great reach out to score A Class Player
Dixon - 5/10.Good Young Talent from Dixon made cud improve
Foster - 5/10. Came on in the Last 10 - 15 minutes need the ball more in his hand.

I'll get in on this cause i am depressed from watching warrington. I would like tosay i really enjoyed myself as a Saints fan yesterday. Real intensity. Why does your team fo that to you?

Wellens - 7/10 didn't really do anything wrong and some of his catches on the full were magnificent. Shame about his lack of pace
Gardner - 4/10 did nothing, from my memory, or worth.
Shenton - 5/10 looked rusty. Hope he wasn't (from a wire POV)
Lomax - 5/10. "Needs to improve on his handling skills"
Meli - 7/10 Defense great! Attacking Great! few niggles but looked solid.
Wheeler - 5/10. was a abit of a ghost. Looked good in places/ Stupid game threatnening penalty though. very ameteur mistake
Eastmond - 7/10. Drop goal was bad. Led w/o Pryce well and looked up for it. good kicking, plus has a lot on his plate (injuries, career)
Graham - 2/10. I cringed when he got the ball. For Graham's fearsome standards it was terrrible. Still the best prop in the league but he was slow and ineffective for most of his input. **sorry**
Roby - 10/10. Far and away the best performance to be seen for a few weeks. Did nothing wrong and scored an EXCELLENT try!!!


LMS - 8/10. Quick, effective and no mistakes.
Soliola - 7/10. a lot of errors but strong runs
Wilkin - 9/10. led soe great runs and didn't put a foor wrong. Excellent showing.
Moore - 5/10. Not great. Not bad. Should have stepped more ImO
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Clough - 6/10. went in hard. did his job well.
Puletua - 8/10. goes hard and fast. Great Try that broke the game.
Dixon - 5/10. Didn't burst onto the scene.
Foster - 4/10 Kicked well but he seems the wrong shape for a rugby player. Was needed for the win though

Wilkin was excellent yesterday. He was vigourous throughout and was one of our few players who looked capable of penetrating the defence. I suspect you have a personal dislike for Wilkin which clouds your judgement of his performances somewhat.

I don't know him so can't have a personal dislike of him.

However, I think he's been carried for the last 3yrs by saints. Very very poor for a so called superstar.

I think he had a 15/20 min spell in the 2nd half which was the nearest we've seen to the 2006 wilkin.

I find watching him very frustrating as he's got all the tools to be a good club player but he's not a overrated work horse.

Wilkin needs to decide what role he wants to play and then stick to it. If he wants to be a ball handler, then go for it. If he wants to be a wide running forward then ditto. May not be his fault of course - I'm sure coaches love versatility, but I'm not sure it has helped him personally become the player he could be.

Well, if you don't know him and yet you put him down at every opportunity then that is a very sad state to be in.

I thought Wilkin was great on Saturday night. Plus the fact that his new slimmed down self means he looks gorgeous.

I take it you know Mick potter?

It's not possible to know a cardboard cut-out.

The jibe would have worked better if you'd used Meli instead of Mick Potter, since Mick Potter has now exited stage left (thank God) and so he isn't discussed anymore (thank God) but I could happily whinge about Meli like you do about Wilkin all day long if given the chance as unfortunately he is still in the team.

Your still banging on about him.

Wellens - 6/10. Didn't look 100% and should've took command on the 2nd Wigan try, but tried hard as usual. Let's hope his injury isn't too serious.
Gardner - 5/10. Ran the ball in OK, but limited opportunities. Wasn't really involved in the game.
Shenton - 6/10. Solid debut and should get better with more game time.
Lomax - 6/10. Went OK I thought considering it's not his natural position.
Meli - 6.5/10. Ran the ball in strong and produced a nice offload for our 1st try. Still as dodgy as ever at kicks, but it's to be expected with Meli.
Wheeler - 6/10. Played a supporting role at 6, but did OK. I think he's a better option at Centre for now, but reasonable back up for Pryce.
Eastmond - 6/10. Tried hard and showed a few nice touches, missed alot of tackles though. If he's still here he should get better with games.
Graham - 7.5/10. Strong up front as usual, although you can tell he's carrying a knock. Looks a bit slimmer this season.
Roby - 10/10. Sensational display, was at the heart of everything for us. Early MOS contender.
LMS - 7/10 - Another good debut. Made some strong runs with the ball and tackled well. Better player than Hargreaves easily.
Wilkin - 8/10. His best game for a long time. Tackled strongly and ran good lines. Good support play for his try. This is the Wilkin I expect to see every week.
Soliola - 8/10. One of his best displays in the Red Vee. Made some big yards with the ball and tackled well. Complimented Wilkin nicely.
Moore. 7/10. Didn't notice him during the game but after watching it on TV, thought he did pretty well. Looks like he may play a utility role again.

BENCH:
Puletua - 9/10. Great performance from the big man, 2nd best player on the park for us. Always made good yards with the ball, some classy offloading and his try showed great strength.
Clough - 6/10. Quiet display from Cloughy, expect a bit more in the coming weeks.
Foster - 6/10. Did quite well in Wellens place. Wellens injury could give him an extended run at full back, so I'll be interested to see how he goes.
Dixon - 6/10. Did OK, but didn't play a great deal.

Then shut up about Wilkin.

The is a thread about wilkin and posts about him, that's why I've made comment on him.

Potter been gone 4 month and your still obsessed

[iYou[/i brought him up but [iI[/i am obsessed?

You never stop banging on about how rubbish Wilkin is. And he is still at Saints. And he was one of our best players on Saturday. Get over it.

No doubt his good 15 min spell in the 2nd half was because potter ain't our coach now?

You've been saying for past 2yrs that the injury situation we've had under potter was down to Potters training yet we are already missing players this year and only two games in!

I'm not continuing this. You think what you like.